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Brass Scroungers: Part Deux! Spoiled my Range Session.

Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by Mad Magyar, Sep 29, 2007.

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  1. Mad Magyar

    Mad Magyar Member

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    Some months ago I posted a thread indicating my displeasure of lurking brass scroungers. I was criticized for my antics (stomping the brass)(not cleaning up) etc, and I took it....This morning, it's more than I could bare...
    I drive up to an empty bern, there are 8---5 were not occupied, and notice a nice SUV with a guy standing near what appeared to be a 32 gallon drum.
    OK, I have no problem with this guy; a brass scrounger like so many...
    I park in my bern (2 spaces away), load up my two weapons: .45 Officer's & .32 Mauser HSc.. BTW, both shot very well....
    As I was setting my targets, I notice in the corner of my eye this guy walks into my area and comes within 10 feet of me...
    I picked up my .45, quick slide rack, placed the gun to my side and watched...Not sure if he was intent with some harm or what? The nerve of the bastard?
    "Don't mind me, just scrounging for brass". I was dumb-founded and I didn't say anything...He then remarked how he liked my targets (BG's) and he just stood there...All the time, I am staring at him and not saying anything....I believe the S.O.B. thought I was going to start my shooting session while he watched...
    He got the message, he walked out & around the bern....I finished my drills, picked up all my brass and threw it all in the nearby steel trash can. As I drove away, I can see him heading to my bern.
    If he wants it; he can scrounge in the garbage can...:fire:
    Did I do the right thing this time?:rolleyes:
     
  2. Lonestar49

    Lonestar49 Member

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    SA was on the money

    ...

    Caution is the better side of Valor..


    LS
     
  3. armoredman

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    If you don't want your brass, politely tell the guy to come back after you're done. Some brass scroungers are there to reload, others to make a buck at the recyclers. Just be polite and firm, and you should be OK.
    Sorry this upsets you so - have you thought about joining a private shooting club? Maybe you can find one that prohibits scrounging, because the range keeps it and resells/recycles it. That might make your shooting time more enjoyable.
     
  4. BlkHawk73

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    I'd have simply told him it was going home with me. Luckily I have never seen any such folks at the club I belong to and shoot at.
     
  5. R.W.Dale

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    The answer is rather simple.

    Shoot more WOLF DUH!


    The price of steel isn't that high......yet
     
  6. usp9

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    If you're going to throw it away anyway, why not let him have it. Let the scrounger pick it up. I'd be happy to have someone clean up after me. I don't have much empathy for you..what foul was committed?
     
  7. stevemis

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    I'd say the brass scrounger had some steel ones, or he is as dumb as a box of rocks. It takes a lot of nerve to sneak up on someone while they're wearing ear protection and are firing a gun.

    Pick up your own brass. Bring an old bedsheet or a large tarp. One day you might decide to start reloading, and you'll already have a nice collection of once-fired brass.
     
  8. EricTheBarbarian

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    why not scrounge your own brass and sell it rather than throw it away.
     
  9. sandy4570

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    I usaully politely ask the shooter if he want to save the brass or not and offer to sweep them up once he done shooting ,I only pick 30-30 , .45 ACP and 9 mm Luger brass. The range that I shoot has a rule that once the brass was dump in the brass bucket it belong to the range so I would have to get them while they were still on the ground.
    I would not be stand next to the guy and stare at him while he was shooting actually I probably shoot my own guns next lane and only sweep the brass up when the cease fire session announce by the range officer . :eek:
     
  10. Owen

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    I don't understand your issue.

    The guy wants to pick up after you, and you have a problem with that?

    The scrounger was a little lame in not actually asking you for your brass, but knowing what he was looking for, and knowing that you were going to throw the brass away, why didn't you just offer it to him?

    and why did you bold SUV?
     
  11. gandog56

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    I see no harm in brass scroungers as long as they ask. It's the brass balled ones who just sweep up your brass without asking that bother me. That and I reload, so I save all mine. Why not give them a break if you're just going t trash yours?
     
  12. KevininPa

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    I've scrounged brass.:eek: But only while at the range after shooting and never got in other shooters way. Also only scrounged the calibers I shoot. I leave the other calibers for the guys who shoot'em. I don't reload yet, but my buddy and I are almost set up to start. We don't make a lot of bucks so we've been gathering equipment and saving brass for awhile now. Almost there, expect to be reloading in about two months time:D. I can't wait because people have made me reloads and those rounds always shot better than anything I bought. It's also a private club so if someone is scrounging they're usually reloading.
    I do think that the gentleman in question should have left you alone while you were shootin' and not have lurked about. That is enough to put a person on edge in this day and age. It's not like he was there shootin' and you ended up battin' the breeze. One thing I like about shootin' at the club is that I usually end up BSin' with someone and we usually end up tryin' out each others hardware. I've fired a lot of different guns this way. Suppers ready, later!


    Kevin in Pa
     
  13. koja48

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    after you

    . . . would be the point. I keep ALL of mine & when I go to the range, I don't do so to accommodate someone hunting brass. If I miss one or two, they are welcome to them . . . AFTER I'M DONE SHOOTING. I believe this used to be referred-to as "common courtesy," a characteristic too many folks seem to lack nowadays.
     
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    Be careful- brass scrounging is a contageous, infectious neurlogical disease which spreads on contact.

    I'm notorious for scouring the range for brass, though I wait until a particular range or lane is abandoned before I start my search. Otherwise, if I'm sharing a lane, and the other shooter is also scrounging, then we will split our booty and focus on what we're reloading.

    Someone standing behind me with a big drum is not going to get a warm reception.
     
  15. WSM MAGNUM

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    Seems to me you were acting stranger than the brass scrounger. What`s the big deal if he wanted to watch you shoot? :confused:
     
  16. lamazza

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    And why the attitude-throwing the brass in the garbage when you knew he wanted it?
    Some people actually need the money from the brass they cash in. I know a few older guys that wouldn't even be able to afford ammo if they didn't supplement their income with scrounged brass.
     
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    The scrounger was rude, IMO. That's kinda like divying up a dying relative's property while standing in their hospital room, isn't it?

    The polite scrounger asks if you reload or otherwise keep your brass, during a cease-fire, and then asks if you mind if they take it when you're done. Nine out of ten will even pile it up some to make the scrounging easier. Just be polite.

    As for a reaction to deal with an impolite scrounger: Pick up all your own brass and take it with you. Box it up and leave it for the next trip at the range. I know that sounds counter productive, but trashing it is not a huge inconvenience to a truely-infected brass scrounger. Scroungers get off on finding ANY brass, be it covered in dirt or week-old spaghetti. Taking it with you is less brass, and that makes a scrounger less happy.
     
  18. kartoffel

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    I tried to do a good deed the other day by putting up some coffee cans at the local public range. Just nailed 'em to the roof support uprights on the firing line and proceeded to dump my unwanted brass in them. I even swept up a bit and threw some 22LR in a few cans just to prime the pump.

    We'll see it it catches on. As things currently stand, the gravel parking area might as well be paved with 7.62x39 and 22LR. :)
     
  19. chipperi

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    There is an old guy who scrounges at my local range. He usually makes a point to ask If I mind. My usual response is "leave the 45acp (or whatever I am low on ) because I reload it, and he's cool with it most of the time I try to get it all in some kind of a pile for him. But he's an elderly guy usually wearing a tattered old Korean Veteran hat. So on occasion I take what I have way to much of for him.
     
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    I don't like strangers hovering around me either, whether I'm at a range or anywhere else. It started when I was a little kid. Mrs. McCormack used to look over my shoulder when I was taking a test. She'd use a pencil to scratch her laquered, beehived head, freeing up cornflake-sized dandruff so it would flutter down and it made me very uncomfortable. I used to stop writing and ask her "May I help you?" GHODDD, she was gross. It was a rough year.
     
  21. The Bushmaster

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    WOW!!! Did I ever score yesterday.:) Went to a State Concealed Carry picnic. Lots of once fired cases all over the place. .38 Special, .357 magnum, .40 S&W .45 ACP and 9mmX19. I must have picked up 25 lbs of brass to bring home to reload..:)..Yes...That's right...I'm a confessed "Brass Rat"..:eek:..A polite one though. I asked and I waited [impatiantly;)] for them to let me in to pick up the brass...I really think that you were just as rude as the "Brass Rat" at your range...Mad Magyar...Once fired brass, depending on the calibre and whether it is pistol or rifle, costs anywhere from .05 cents to .20 cents for standard cases. The exotic calibres go even higher. I have no idea what it's worth to a scrapper, but I've been told that it's around $1.50 a pound...If it seemed like he was standing over you like a buzzard waiting for you to die. Not so...He was waiting for the cases to cool so he could pick them up without burning his fingers..:what:.. Or was he wearing gloves???:D

    You should join him and start reloading yourself...:)
     
  22. rhubarb

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    You, dear Sir, are a true Gentleman.

    I have taken to dragging the trash barrels to the dumpster and emptying them. I don't always find brass, but what there is in the trash is clean and shiny. I wisht everybody would pick up their brass and put it in the trash can.

    As to the scrounger standing near you, that was rude. I usually peek around the edge of berms with a bag in hand until my benefactors are at least in their cars before I swoop down on their still hot brass.
     
  23. target1911

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    I say...."LIGHTEN UP A LITTLE".....I agree it was rude for him to hover and not ask you about your brass. But going outta your way to throw your brass in the trash to make his life harder was rude too. You could have sparked up a conversation just as easy as him. You knew why he was there when you pulled up. If you didnt want him near you, you could have nicely informed him that he was welcome to your brass when you are finished at the range.

    I personlly like to BS with ppl at the range. I have been known to walk up to ppl and start the small talk. BUT, I dont interupt while they aiming or busy. You never know what kind of great connections you can make... meaning... You usually get your best deals through friends. maybe he owned a gun shop and could have givin you a smoking deal on that gun you have been wanting to buy. I havnt had to pay for a hunting lease in years. I get GREAT discounts when I send my truck to the shop. I get bargains on guns I buy at a particular pawn shop. I dont ask for free-bee's or the great deals and darn sure dont exspect them but makin friends has its benifits.

    Take "THE HIGH ROAD" and
    Just be polite and not vendictive
     
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    I guess it's a good thing he wasn't a lead scrounger !!
     
  25. S&Wfan

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    I always try to be friendly with people at the range, and everywhere else for that matter.

    If a stranger walks up at the range I'm going to go over to HIM. I'm gonna look him squarely in the eye and smile, and say confidently, "Good Morning!"

    I find that most people are just as warm and friendly back to me too once I do this, and it breaks they typical tension felt by all when we first see others approach us at the range.

    They are relieved that I'm not one of those paranoid, squinty-eyed bastards who lurk at ranges to shoot and who are always looking over their shoulder in "Condition Red" thinking they need to be ready to fight. Their responses of relief let me know they feel the same relief about me.

    They also understand I'm not at all afraid of them and that I'm confident in myself . . . always a good thing to do.

    I believe the original poster's action radiated both paranoia, distrust and disgust towards the old geezer collecting brass.

    Lighten up dude! The range is a place to have fun and fellowship with others who share your love for this wonderful sport.

    Let's make shooting sports more friendly and approachable for new shooters to come and fall in love with shooting sports . . . not make 'em feel we are a bunch of jack-booted isolationist charecters with a bad attitude and a hair-trigger anger and distrust of everyone.

    Those kind of actions run folks off from our sport . . . and you end up with only paranoid, jack-booted isolationists at your range. Not good.

    So, IMHO you need to lighten up and try being friendly with strangers at the club you are in. I'd rather have friends watching my "six" that some guy who thinks I'm unfriendly, aggressive and weird. I absolutely hate it when people start acting strange, paranoid and ugly around me at the range. It ruins my plans to have an enjoyable day shooting, for I'm gonna leave before the dude maybe goes "postal."

    Since you asked . . .

    T.

    PS: Here's the solution to your brass problem. Get a 25-2 or a 625 in .45ACP and load ammo in moonclips . . . and through away your bottom feeders that cause you to get so upset due to them puking brass all over the range. Clean up is easier too!;)

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