Wonder what the reality of this is?
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/new-york-ag-dissolve-nra-lawsuit
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/new-york-ag-dissolve-nra-lawsuit
Breaking News: New York AG seeks to dissolve NRA in new lawsuit
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earlthegoat2
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I would think maybe they could look at a few other organizations while they are at it.
mcb
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Rather short article but I can't say its wrong.
"The NRA's influence has been so powerful that the organization went unchecked for decades while top executives funneled millions into their own pockets," James said in a statement. "The NRA is fraught with fraud and abuse, which is why, today, we seek to dissolve the NRA, because no organization is above the law."
The above from the article has a lot of pro-2A people upset with the NRA in addition to the usually anti-2A people.
"The NRA's influence has been so powerful that the organization went unchecked for decades while top executives funneled millions into their own pockets," James said in a statement. "The NRA is fraught with fraud and abuse, which is why, today, we seek to dissolve the NRA, because no organization is above the law."
The above from the article has a lot of pro-2A people upset with the NRA in addition to the usually anti-2A people.
CZ 75 BD
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From the Wall Street Journal:
The reality is that Wayne and Co. have sunk this organization.
New York Attorney General Letitia James has filed a lawsuit seeking to dissolve the National Rifle Association, alleging that insiders violated the state’s nonprofit laws by illegally diverting tens of millions of dollars from the group through excessive expenses and contracts that benefited relatives or close associates.
The extraordinary move against the nation’s largest gun-rights group comes after an 18-month investigation by Ms. James. As a nonprofit registered in New York since its founding in 1871, the NRA is regulated by the attorney general’s office.
The suit alleges that longtime CEO Wayne LaPierre and three other top officials “instituted a culture of self-dealing, mismanagement, and negligent oversight at the NRA,” failed to properly manage the organization’s money and violated numerous state and federal laws, according to a news release announcing the complaint.
Among the allegations against the 70-year-old Mr. LaPierre, a national figure who has run the NRA for three decades: That he spent $3.6 million of NRA funds over the last two years on unwarranted travel consultants, flew family members on NRA-paid private jets when he wasn’t aboard and secured a $17 million post-employment contract for himself without board approval.
He also allegedly took eight trips to the Bahamas by private air charter, costing the NRA more than $500,000, according to the press release. Once there, he allegedly often was given the use of a 107-foot yacht owned by an NRA vendor, the release said.
“The NRA’s influence has been so powerful that the organization went unchecked for decades while top executives funneled millions into their own pockets,” Ms. James said in the press release. “The NRA is fraught with fraud and abuse, which is why, today, we seek to dissolve the NRA, because no organization is above the law.”
The NRA has strongly defended its governance practices in previous interviews with The Wall Street Journal. NRA attorney William A. Brewer III, at the time the AG’s investigation became public in April 2019, said the group “has full confidence in its accounting practices and commitment to good governance.”
Write to Mark Maremont at [email protected]
The reality is that Wayne and Co. have sunk this organization.
New York Attorney General Letitia James has filed a lawsuit seeking to dissolve the National Rifle Association, alleging that insiders violated the state’s nonprofit laws by illegally diverting tens of millions of dollars from the group through excessive expenses and contracts that benefited relatives or close associates.
The extraordinary move against the nation’s largest gun-rights group comes after an 18-month investigation by Ms. James. As a nonprofit registered in New York since its founding in 1871, the NRA is regulated by the attorney general’s office.
The suit alleges that longtime CEO Wayne LaPierre and three other top officials “instituted a culture of self-dealing, mismanagement, and negligent oversight at the NRA,” failed to properly manage the organization’s money and violated numerous state and federal laws, according to a news release announcing the complaint.
Among the allegations against the 70-year-old Mr. LaPierre, a national figure who has run the NRA for three decades: That he spent $3.6 million of NRA funds over the last two years on unwarranted travel consultants, flew family members on NRA-paid private jets when he wasn’t aboard and secured a $17 million post-employment contract for himself without board approval.
He also allegedly took eight trips to the Bahamas by private air charter, costing the NRA more than $500,000, according to the press release. Once there, he allegedly often was given the use of a 107-foot yacht owned by an NRA vendor, the release said.
“The NRA’s influence has been so powerful that the organization went unchecked for decades while top executives funneled millions into their own pockets,” Ms. James said in the press release. “The NRA is fraught with fraud and abuse, which is why, today, we seek to dissolve the NRA, because no organization is above the law.”
The NRA has strongly defended its governance practices in previous interviews with The Wall Street Journal. NRA attorney William A. Brewer III, at the time the AG’s investigation became public in April 2019, said the group “has full confidence in its accounting practices and commitment to good governance.”
Write to Mark Maremont at [email protected]
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I have to guess they must have just plum run out of "crime" to go after there huh? Amazing they have cleaned the place up to the point they have no real crime to go after. 
.455_Hunter
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I have no doubt that Wayne and Company are mismanaging the association, but the primary goal of this attack is clear as day- disband the largest and most effective gun rights organization to remove a primary block for massive gun control efforts targeting "traditional" firearms owners- veterans, hunters, libertarian minded individuals, etc.
mcb
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In the long run it might be best. It would hurt in the short run to loose the NRA but it would make room for a more modern thinking and less corrupt pro-2A organizations to step into the vacuum.
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To be clear, not from an anti-gun stance but an Anti-Fraud stance. I for one, would like to see a more modern and less corrupt and more inclusive 2A group come to power.
If I heard correctly, a reporter on CNN said those charges are forthcoming.
Yep they solved all of their other issues in NY so let's go here...I see a surge in membership. Yes I am aware of other organizations but can someone tell me which one has taken on the courts besides the NRA? Although their spending may not be right it's a private organization...Sorry to disappoint but if they go away so will your 2A rights...
alsaqr
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After the corruption and crooked dealings in the NRA were announced, i predicted the New York AG would attempt to dissolve the organization unless the board voted to oust La Pierre and his partners in crime. The board refused to act and it's come to this.
This same AG dissolved the Trump Foundation.
Another link:
https://currently.att.yahoo.com/att/ny-attorney-general-seeks-dissolve-153816245.html
This same AG dissolved the Trump Foundation.
Another link:
https://currently.att.yahoo.com/att/ny-attorney-general-seeks-dissolve-153816245.html
Well yeah it's CNN...
Poper
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I strongly disagree with throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
If there is evidence of corrupt mismanagement of the organization, then by all means, arrest them and hold them accountable.
To legally terminate the NRA would be penalizing three million + members for the deeds of a few individuals. Not at all the way America was intended to self-govern. Use of government power by elected officials to eliminate powerful opposition to their unconstitutional laws is not a good thing no matter how one looks at it, and it stinks of corrupt anti-American, political thuggery. Something to be expected in a banana republic.
mcb
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We can only hope that is true. The squandering of members' funds is inexcusable.
The NRA is organized (through manipulation by WLP and company) in a way that the members no longer have a legitimate say in what the organization does. The members are simple cash cow for the leadership's corruption. The NRA is beyond easy repair and the membership would be better served by moving on to more open and honest pro-2A groups. IMHO the NRA is a lost cause and that is a real shame.
Poper
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The membership is not corrupt. Do not penalize them for the acts of the ones committing the fraud/criminal acts. That is not fair and not normally the way our laws are intended to be administered.
.455_Hunter
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I wonder if this AG would aggressively pursue corruption investigations if the target was the ACLU or the NAACP (supposing its HQ was in NY)?
22250Rem
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While the NRA does have its own internal problems, and I was hoping they could straighten everything out; NY state is looking at this as a good time to attack them while they are in a weakened position. The governor of NY State has publicly expressed a deep seated hatred for the NRA more times than I can keep track of. This most recent action against the NRA is nothing more than another of the never ending attacks that they launch on ANY pro second amendment organization.
Poper
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The NRA is not beyond repair.
That would be like saying the entire body of gun owners is beyond repair and we must eliminate firearms ownership in order to hold the corrupt leadership accountable because they will just migrate to the next organization and corrupt it just the same.
I understand your hatred for the NRA and its leadership. I just believe your energies would be better served supporting GOA, JFPO or another firearms supporting organization rather than expending energy attempting to ruin the one most Second Amendment supporters belong.
alsaqr
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The NRA Foundation is chartered in the District of Columbia. The DC Attorney General has gone after the NRA Foundation for loaning money to the cash strapped NRA. Those same individuals cut spending on firearms safety, etc.
"The Washington, D.C., attorney general has been investigating the NRA Foundation for more than a year. It said its investigation determined that low membership and lavish spending left the NRA with financial problems and so it exploited the foundation to remain afloat. It offered as an example two $5 million loans that the NRA Foundation board approved in 2017 and 2018 despite the NRA’s financial problems, and then repeatedly granted requests to extend and modify the loan."
It is much too late to "repair" the NRA. Had millions of NRA members written and demanded the ouster of Wayne La Pierre and his cohorts in crime that would have happened. Most members sat on their duffs and hoped it would all go away.
"The Washington, D.C., attorney general has been investigating the NRA Foundation for more than a year. It said its investigation determined that low membership and lavish spending left the NRA with financial problems and so it exploited the foundation to remain afloat. It offered as an example two $5 million loans that the NRA Foundation board approved in 2017 and 2018 despite the NRA’s financial problems, and then repeatedly granted requests to extend and modify the loan."
It is much too late to "repair" the NRA. Had millions of NRA members written and demanded the ouster of Wayne La Pierre and his cohorts in crime that would have happened. Most members sat on their duffs and hoped it would all go away.
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illinoisburt
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I'm not a huge fan of the NRA. That said, we will have to see the actual suite and charges before jumping to big conclusions. There is obviously a lot of politics here, especially being an election year with so many new gun owners and others fearful of the current news cycle of riots and protests. Usually these things are taxation issues that end up with charges against the people using the funds and maybe penalties by the organization. Of course the costs and publicity of defending the actions will damage the organization, which is likely the real objective.
YGBSM.....
mcb
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I do support those other organizations. I am also a life member of the NRA, a decision I currently regret.
And it is not the same thing as saying the entire body of gun owner is beyond repair. The NRA has turned on all firearms owner buy becoming unresponsive and unaccountable to the membership. They are like a union that has become obsessed with its own existence rather than protecting the worker is was there to support. As the organization currently stands my vote is pointless due to the nomination process, and WLP is untouchable by the membership. I see no path from where the organization is currently to an organization that is responsive and held accountable to its membership. Maybe they will prove me wrong and turn that around but at this moment in time I can do nothing to change them other than withholding any additional support. So until such time that they change and the leadership structure to a system were they are accountable they are dead to me. I cannot support an organization that treats its members as we are being treated. Millions of dollars of membership money, their hard earned and freely given money, wasted, that is unforgivable in my opinion. YMMV
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Prosecuting fraud and abuse doesn't equate to dissolving the organization. The call to dissolve the NRA is the clear sign that the agenda isn't prosecuting the abuse by officers of the not for profit (as has been done with other not for profits), but the politically motivated destruction of the 2A defense.
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