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Britain - delete Churchill, freedom and tyranny from children education

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  1. Lucky

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    Britain IS a police state, and they ARE brainwashing their subjects. It's a travesty that gov'ts anywhere were able to seize control of education, it's a recipe for disaster (or success, depending on if you support police states or oppose them).

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2007320449,00.html

     
  2. 4v50 Gary

    4v50 Gary Moderator Staff Member

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    Neglecting the past makes it easier to erase national identity and promote Wun wurld gubmint. When am I announced as Generalissimo Emperor of Earth?
     
  3. longeyes

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    The fat lady hasn't sung just yet, my friend.
     
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    Britain’s cigar-chomping World War Two PM — famed for his two-finger victory salute — was removed from a list of figures secondary school children must learn about.

    Hey England, I've got a special one-finger salute for you!
     
  5. FeebMaster

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    I don't see the problem.
     
  6. jkomp316

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    yea, whats the problem? just keep going to work and stop worring about your children.
     
  7. damien

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    Britain is going to soon exit the world stage for good.
     
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    If they can even consider talking about WW2 and not include Churchill, they have already lost the soul of Britain. They are not only Jackboots but dirty ingrates as well. I hope we don't even consider saving their butts again.
     
  9. RobTzu

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    Churchill is one of the most eloquent defenders of liberty and capitalism we have ever had. And that is why the ban. Some of his quotes, I think it is appropriate.

    "A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get
    its pants on. "

    "The Americans will always do the right thing... After they've exhausted all the alternatives."

    "An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last."

    "You ask, what is our aim? I can answer in one word. It is victory. Victory at all costs. Victory in spite of all terrors. Victory, however long and hard the road may be, for without victory there is no survival."

    You were given the choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor and you will have war."
    Churchill's remark after Chamberlain returned from signing the Munich pact with Hitler

    "Some people regard private enterprise as a predatory tiger to be shot. Others look on it as a cow they can milk. Not enough people see it as a healthy horse, pulling a sturdy wagon."

    "The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries."
     
  10. Dravur

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    I hate to say it...

    but after all the crap they have done to their country, I would not even consider going there for a visit.

    I find it sad that this is exactly what they will try and do to our country... "They" are any of the socialist/PC types. You pick em.
     
  11. Hardware

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    No, but I'm pretty sure I can hear her warming up backstage.

    How do they reasonably expect to teach World War 2 without Churchill, Hitler and Stalin? Revisionist history no doubt.
     
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    Damien--do you realize you just threatened to nuke England? When we're finished invading Iraq, we're going to be moving a carrier group to your neighborhood. Watch your back.

    --Len.
     
  13. El Tejon

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    I see the Ministry of Education is hard at work. Double plus good.:D
     
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    At least they will still be teaching Orwell on Airstrip One. I imagine that the irony is lost to most there.
     
  15. Thin Black Line

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    Tony Blair went to a closed meeting the weekend before he left office and
    signed away Britain without a review by his peers or a vote by the British
    people.

    Deleting Churchill from conscious memory (aka down the Memory Hole) is a
    small piece of the continued march forward toward global socialism.

    Other pieces include: banning guns; so-called global economic integration,
    destruction of the family unit, etc.

    What gets tested and is successful in Britain (the island petri dish) is used
    elsewhere such as America.
     
  16. jkingrph

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    The day they enact that, they become a third world country.
     
  17. Werewolf

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    I don't see the problem. The UK has been irrelevant for at least the last 40 years and little more than a bootlick for the US since.

    Removing Churchill from their History? <shrug> He'll be remembered in places and by people who matter.
     
  18. McCall911

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    Well, as an American, I can say that I'm proud to have lived during Churchill's time, even though I was young when he died. I'm just appalled that some of his own people would turn their back on his memory in favor of the great delusion of socialism.
     
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    The same crap happens here.
     
  20. Limeyfellow

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    To be honest Churchill was a bit of a prick, and had plenty of screw up on his record that cost lots of people their lives especially in WW1 and didn't know how to run a country outside of wartime where he could force everything he wanted or have those holding out shot. Being reelected in 1951 was not too surprising though. Clement Attlee was a failure. Britain was bankcrupt and the US cut off all funds and locked the UK out and demanded all the money back to punish it for the likes of calling for national healthcare and pensions as such was seen as a dangerous swing into socialism. Nothing could be done and the years of reconstruction were grindingly slow.

    We must be careful not to make a myth out of people where the legend takes over history that happens so common.

    That and we have to fit far more than 3 or 4 hundred year of history into a short time frame. Somethings have to be cut and we have alot of important history to fit into that time.
     
  21. Joe Demko

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    I can't see making Churchill an unperson, but (especially here in the US) it's time to blow off some of the cloud of myth surrounding the man. His ridiculous pre-occupation with "the soft underbelly of Europe" costed plenty of good men their lives in both World Wars. He was also rather an autocrat, which may be what is necessary at times during a major war, but is also something that would set many of you here at this board to howling if you had to endure it.
     
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    How are these idiots going to talk about the war without mentioning the major players of the war? "There was this meeting at Tehran. We met the Yanks and the Russians there and talked about defeating those Nazi guys. The end". And while these people talk about "modernizing" their curriculum, they're requiring students to read classics and Shakespeare.

    Sounds like someone is trying to rewrite history.
     
  23. Thin Black Line

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    I seriously question how many schools cover Tehran let alone Yalta or Potsdam.

    What's the point of students learning that a small group of people make
    decisions that affect the entire population of the world for generations ;)
     
  24. ConfuseUs

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    RobTzu, you forgot this chestnut:

    Lady Astor (who Churchill detested): Winston, you're drunk!

    Churchill: And you, madame are ugly. But in the morning I shall be sober.

    Pity UK school children won't have THAT in the curriculum! :)
     
  25. Art Eatman

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    Disgusting ideas, but off-topic...

    Art
     
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