Britain - delete Churchill, freedom and tyranny from children education

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Britain IS a police state, and they ARE brainwashing their subjects. It's a travesty that gov'ts anywhere were able to seize control of education, it's a recipe for disaster (or success, depending on if you support police states or oppose them).

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2007320449,00.html

Two-finger salute

By DAVID WOODING
Whitehall Editor
July 13, 2007

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FURY erupted last night after Sir Winston Churchill was axed from school history lessons.

Britain’s cigar-chomping World War Two PM — famed for his two-finger victory salute — was removed from a list of figures secondary school children must learn about.

Instead they will be taught about “relevant” issues such as global warming and drug dangers. Churchill’s grandson, Tory MP Nicholas Soames, branded the move “total madness.”

The decision to axe Churchill is part of a major shake-up aimed at dragging the national curriculum into the 21st century, it was claimed last night.

But the plan — hatched by advisers — angered schools secretary Ed Balls, who vowed to probe ALL the changes to the curriculum.

The proposals will see traditional timetables torn up, with pupils focusing on modern “relevant” topics such as drug and booze abuse, climate change and GM foods.

Churchill — voted the greatest ever Briton — goes off the required lessons list, along with Hitler, Gandhi, Stalin and Martin Luther King.

There will also be no need to mention the Wars of the Roses, Elizabeth I or Henry VIII.

The move left Mr Balls locked in a row with his curriculum advisers.

He insisted: “Churchill should be taught to all pupils and I shall be taking steps to ensure it is.”

Shadow schools secretary Michael Gove said: “Winston Churchill is the towering figure of 20th-century British history. His fight against fascism was Britain’s finest hour.

“Our national story can’t be told without Churchill at the centre.”

Churchill’s grandson, Tory MP Nicholas Soames, stormed: “It’s total madness. The teaching of history is incredibly important. If people do not seem to care about the country in which they live, the reason is that they don’t know much about it.”
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Ministers said the shake-up will free up a quarter of the school day so teachers can focus more on individual pupil needs. All subjects for 11 to 14-year-olds face an overhaul.

ENGLISH: Lessons must focus on reading and writing accurately and speaking clearly. Classic and modern literature will be a must. Recommended authors will include Jane Austen, George Orwell and Alan Bennett. Pupils must study at least one Shakespeare play.

SCIENCE: Touchy issues such as genetic engineering of plants and animals and use of nuclear power are added. Kids will also learn about the effects of drugs such as booze, cigarettes and cannabis, sexual health and infection.

MATHS: Personal finance, such as how to manage a bank account and work out credit card interest will be added to algebra, linear equations and ratios.

HISTORY: Will still focus on major events in Britain, Europe and the world, including both world wars, the Holocaust, and the British Empire. Visits to museums, galleries and historical sights are a must.

MODERN LANGUAGES: Schools will be able to stop teaching French, German and Spanish and offer other languages, including Urdu, Chinese, Russian, and Arabic. Qualifications and Curriculum Authority boss Ken Boston said the changes would equip young people “with the skills for life and work in the 21st century”.

A spokesman said changes would not be radical, adding: “Anne Boleyn will still be beheaded, the Pennines will remain the backbone of England and Romeo will still fall in love with Juliet.”

Headteachers last night said that the reforms were “a move in the right direction”.
 
Neglecting the past makes it easier to erase national identity and promote Wun wurld gubmint. When am I announced as Generalissimo Emperor of Earth?
 
Britain’s cigar-chomping World War Two PM — famed for his two-finger victory salute — was removed from a list of figures secondary school children must learn about.

Hey England, I've got a special one-finger salute for you!
 
yea, whats the problem? just keep going to work and stop worring about your children.
 
If they can even consider talking about WW2 and not include Churchill, they have already lost the soul of Britain. They are not only Jackboots but dirty ingrates as well. I hope we don't even consider saving their butts again.
 
Churchill is one of the most eloquent defenders of liberty and capitalism we have ever had. And that is why the ban. Some of his quotes, I think it is appropriate.

"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get
its pants on. "

"The Americans will always do the right thing... After they've exhausted all the alternatives."

"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last."

"You ask, what is our aim? I can answer in one word. It is victory. Victory at all costs. Victory in spite of all terrors. Victory, however long and hard the road may be, for without victory there is no survival."

You were given the choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor and you will have war."
Churchill's remark after Chamberlain returned from signing the Munich pact with Hitler

"Some people regard private enterprise as a predatory tiger to be shot. Others look on it as a cow they can milk. Not enough people see it as a healthy horse, pulling a sturdy wagon."

"The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries."
 
I hate to say it...

but after all the crap they have done to their country, I would not even consider going there for a visit.

I find it sad that this is exactly what they will try and do to our country... "They" are any of the socialist/PC types. You pick em.
 
The fat lady hasn't sung just yet, my friend.

No, but I'm pretty sure I can hear her warming up backstage.

How do they reasonably expect to teach World War 2 without Churchill, Hitler and Stalin? Revisionist history no doubt.
 
Britain is going to soon exit the world stage for good.
Damien--do you realize you just threatened to nuke England? When we're finished invading Iraq, we're going to be moving a carrier group to your neighborhood. Watch your back.

--Len.
 
Tony Blair went to a closed meeting the weekend before he left office and
signed away Britain without a review by his peers or a vote by the British
people.

Deleting Churchill from conscious memory (aka down the Memory Hole) is a
small piece of the continued march forward toward global socialism.

Other pieces include: banning guns; so-called global economic integration,
destruction of the family unit, etc.

What gets tested and is successful in Britain (the island petri dish) is used
elsewhere such as America.
 
I don't see the problem. The UK has been irrelevant for at least the last 40 years and little more than a bootlick for the US since.

Removing Churchill from their History? <shrug> He'll be remembered in places and by people who matter.
 
Well, as an American, I can say that I'm proud to have lived during Churchill's time, even though I was young when he died. I'm just appalled that some of his own people would turn their back on his memory in favor of the great delusion of socialism.
 
To be honest Churchill was a bit of a prick, and had plenty of screw up on his record that cost lots of people their lives especially in WW1 and didn't know how to run a country outside of wartime where he could force everything he wanted or have those holding out shot. Being reelected in 1951 was not too surprising though. Clement Attlee was a failure. Britain was bankcrupt and the US cut off all funds and locked the UK out and demanded all the money back to punish it for the likes of calling for national healthcare and pensions as such was seen as a dangerous swing into socialism. Nothing could be done and the years of reconstruction were grindingly slow.

We must be careful not to make a myth out of people where the legend takes over history that happens so common.

That and we have to fit far more than 3 or 4 hundred year of history into a short time frame. Somethings have to be cut and we have alot of important history to fit into that time.
 
I can't see making Churchill an unperson, but (especially here in the US) it's time to blow off some of the cloud of myth surrounding the man. His ridiculous pre-occupation with "the soft underbelly of Europe" costed plenty of good men their lives in both World Wars. He was also rather an autocrat, which may be what is necessary at times during a major war, but is also something that would set many of you here at this board to howling if you had to endure it.
 
HISTORY: Will still focus on major events in Britain, Europe and the world, including both world wars, the Holocaust, and the British Empire. Visits to museums, galleries and historical sights are a must.

How are these idiots going to talk about the war without mentioning the major players of the war? "There was this meeting at Tehran. We met the Yanks and the Russians there and talked about defeating those Nazi guys. The end". And while these people talk about "modernizing" their curriculum, they're requiring students to read classics and Shakespeare.

Sounds like someone is trying to rewrite history.
 
How are these idiots going to talk about the war without mentioning the major players of the war? "There was this meeting at Tehran....

I seriously question how many schools cover Tehran let alone Yalta or Potsdam.

What's the point of students learning that a small group of people make
decisions that affect the entire population of the world for generations ;)
 
RobTzu, you forgot this chestnut:

Lady Astor (who Churchill detested): Winston, you're drunk!

Churchill: And you, madame are ugly. But in the morning I shall be sober.

Pity UK school children won't have THAT in the curriculum! :)
 
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