I have one of the "newer" 12 gauge 3.5-inch Stalkers (flat black metal finish and black synthetic furniture) built on a lengthened 12 gauge receiver not the heavier 10 gauge receiver. It has been a tank of shotgun for me. Primarily my turkey gun but I took my first two whitetail deer with it also. When I started shooting three gun competition I used it for a season or two. The lack of a lifter gate and the long receiver made loading two shells at a time trick very easy. I have long arms so the size of the gun has always worked well for me. It ain't a pretty gun but it has been a very good shotgun for me.