Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by jgh4445, Mar 9, 2016.
Old surplus guns may do considerably worse.
No English versions made.
The trigger can be harder, but still pretty clean breaking after break in or removing the mag safety.
The older one of mine (earlier Israli surplus) noticeably benefitted from re crowning the barrel, and the newer one needs it too.
Remove the mag disconnect, polish or replace the trigger, sear and hammer to improve the trigger.
I also recommend an 11 degree recrown on them. It will not make a tack driving BHP into a 1911 but it will not harm an accurate BHP. If you have one that has avg accuracy a recrown can greatly improve your groups. IMHO a recrown is better use of funds than a barsto match barrel.
For 99% of us it is the indian not the arrow which is the weak link in the chain IMHO. I have BHPs that will shoot sub 2" at 25 yards from a rest.
My Indian Ordnance Factory Inglis High Power clone has an excellent trigger WITH the magazine safety installed, thank you very much.
Do yourself a favor and order a copy of his book from his widow as well.
They can be fixed, or so I'm told. I divested one for that reason. Either it or a wad o cash to (or try to) fix it had to go.
These Nighthawk custom Hi-Powers are pricey, and other than the stippling which I'm not crazy about, these have all the custom features I'd want on a BHP.
You'll probably find all types of triggers on surplus HPs but I think it's worth the chance. You should be able to get your $$ out if you change your mind.
Another recommendation for Steven Camp's hipowersandhandguns.com site. Read all the articles there--it's a real Hipower education!
As others have noted, Hipowers are as accurate as YOU are!
Not mine. With the magazine safety removed, it's got a NICE combat trigger pull.
It's never going to replace my Series 70 Colt for bullseye, but it's certainly better than most Glock or H&K triggers I've tried.
As others have pointed out....removing the magazine safety will improve the trigger pull....and when doing so will give one the opportunity to mildly polish the trigger lever...where it rides/slides in the grip frame. Just taking off any burrs will further smooth out the trigger pull.
The trigger can be lightened and smoothed a lot. I know.... my trigger is very nice and easily rivals my 1911 triggers for crispness.
I've found my Hi-Power to be every bit as accurate as it needs to be. It's not a target gun; it's a combat gun that's pretty darned accurate when you make it so.
^^^ Same here. My 1994 model Mk III is a fantastic gun and the trigger is waaay better than what I've read some people experiencing, and waaay better than a friend's pristine T-Series Hi Power (which have the internet reputation of being some of the best-finished HPs).
I'm confident that there is a wide, wide range of trigger quality among the HPs out there. If you get a good one, IME there's nothing to complain about unless you are extremely picking about the trigger on a gun like this.
I don't think my Mk III is quite as accurate as my CZs (75B, 75 PCR, 85 Combat, 97B) but it's pretty close and probably better than 95% of shooters are capable of delivering.
I removed the mag safety but it barely changed the trigger pull because my slider was very slick as was the magazine. The trigger is firm but very crisp, every bit as crisp as my Kimber 1911 but not as light. If I were going to carry it I wouldn't think it needs anything at all, and it's also just fine for general shooting.
I LOVE the Hi Power and keep wanting to pick up another one even though I certainly don't need it. The only rival it has in terms of feel in my hand is the CZ family of 75-based guns, and even then, there's still something special about the size and feel of the Hi Power.
Both have trigger pulls of around eight pounds and more creep than a Steven King novel.
The pistol was initially designed by J. M. Browning, who died prior to completion, then finished by Dieudonne Saive. However the trigger to sear connection was farmed out to Rube Goldberg. (The trigger sends movement ninety degrees through the walking bar in the slide to another connection in the frame which moves the sear.) It can be 'cleaned up' in the same sense a Government Model trigger pull can be 'cleaned up' but is far more complicated due to the several connections.:banghead:
The magazine safety was a requirement for initial development; the pistol was made to be submitted for French Army trials. The French decided on a home designed pistol, but neither FN nor Browning ever ditched it. One notes Ol' John did ditch the grip safety as the French didn't insist.
They are however, reliable and heavy duty pistols. (Presuming one accepts the 9x19 cartridge as acceptable.)
Accuracy. What level do you desire? The typical High Power is capable of hitting a human torso out to fifty yards or so regularly - presuming the operator is so qualified. The typical High Power is not suited for NRA 2700 shooting. Shooting bunnies at ranges over thirty yards would be difficult. I would consider the typical HP suitably accurate for self defense.
Your initial post mentioned wanting "... an older one ..." I find them interesting, but they are becoming collector's items. Newer ones are probably easier to find, but don't have the same 'feeling'.
BTW, if you get "the English one", be sure to post a photo
target models. The trigger on my regular one has been
messed with by amateurs and the mag. safety removed.
It's not real bad. The target model has sights that look like
they belong on a BB gun. It shoots good and the trigger isn't
bad. I have seen a few Hi-Powers that were worked over by
professional gun smiths that had really nice triggers.
One of the Brownings attributes...is how it fits the hand....for most people...it is my firearm of choice...if needed in the dark.....it "Points" to where my minds eye wants it to point....sights are not necessary..
Wasn't actually made in Canada unless a wartime John Inglis (just to confure you further) HP.
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