Discussion in 'Non-Firearm Weapons' started by T.R., Jul 15, 2021.
The #856 is the 4 5/8" large version.
I'm mixed but ok with the injection molded sheath. It's a nice enough knife that it almost begs to have a leather sheath but the included one is better for all weather and haS 2 position vertical or horizontal optons if you care.
My only gripe is China but it's a nice knife and I can not complain about the quality at all.
I've considered getting the large version which also is thicker stock material.
If I wanted similar but USA I'd look at the Vanguard. Similar shape. Different grind but it's more typical of Buck. 2 different grip options. Brass accents. 4.25" Leather sheath.
Buck says “imported”, at the bottom of the “Overview”…you can see the origin for each knife…I thought all Buck were US made…learn something new each day.
Separately, I have the Vanguard and really enjoy it.
My Selkirk would have probably been about 2014 vintage, so ad copy has likely changed in the interim. At one point, IIRC Buck sent almost all its manufacturing overseas. After the move from California, it started making more knives in the US and many of them are made here now but not all. If you will look at Buck's history from its website, you may not see a reference to this offshore outsourcing. https://www.buckknives.com/about/history/
Spyderco and Kershaw both do this a lot. Both of those companies will offer very similar styled knives at different prices
Made in China, $32
Amazon.com: Spyderco Byrd Cara Cara 2 Lightweight Folding Knife with 3.75" Stainless Steel Blade and Black Non-Slip FRN Handle - PlainEdge - BY03PBK2: Sports & Outdoors
Made in Japan, $87
Amazon.com : Spyderco Endura 4 Lightweight Signature Folder Knife with 3.80" VG-10 Steel Blade and FRN Handle - PlainEdge - C10PBK : Hunting Knives : Sports & Outdoors
Made in USA, $260
Amazon.com : Spyderco Military Model, G-10 Handle, Black Blade, Plain C36GPBK : Hunting Folding Knives : Sports & Outdoors
I have all 3.
Other than the steel used in the blade and the shape of the hole the $32 Chinese made knife is every bit as good as the $87 Japanese knife. The steel is a little better at $87, but other than that they are equals. The $260 USA made knife isn't a direct copy, there are other differences including better steel, better grip material and a different locking system. But the overall size and blade shape are similar.
I was not critical of Buck for going offshore, nor did I indicate the Chinese version was inferior. Buck had built its reputation on, among other things, "proudly made in the USA" and all of a sudden it wasn't, and that fact was not clearly noted. I believe the Selkirk is better made than the Vanguard. I do want all pertinent information when making a purchase, and quick look at the current Amazon description does not disclose the origin until you read questions and user reviews.
Why/How so? Lol.... help me feel better abouty choice.
Im still considering adding the Selkirk large or the Vanguard so any light you can shed is appreciated.
I currently have the Selkirk small.
https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/buck-selkirk-v-s-buck-vanguard.1415752/ Neither is without warts. I vastly prefer the Becker BK16 for heavy work.
Thanks. I've seen that before but rereading it help.
Hmmmm, maybe my Buck Compadre already fills the Vanguard role and possibly even better with BOS 5160, the scales, and I like how like balance with the full tang.
The Selkirk large is looking like a better choice for me instead of the Vangaurd. Hard to make another china pick though.
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