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Bud's Model 10 Police Trade-in

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by HKGuns, Aug 19, 2012.

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  1. HKGuns

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    I just picked up my Bud's S&W model 10-6 Police trade-in. It has some holster wear and has some very light surface rust where the model number is located that came off with a toothbrush and some solvent. The grips aren't original to the pistol and are chewed up so I will replace them with some Altamont or other.

    One question, it has a number on the grip frame as well as under the model number, they are different. Which is the serial number?

    Edit: Ok, I think I've figured out the serial number is the one on the grip frame.....It is D792XXX, can anyone help out with the year of MFG? Looks like it might be '76 or so......please confirm.

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  2. Old Fuff

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    1976 seems to be the correct date of manufacture, although since S&W would make and serial number frames, and then build them into finished revolvers later, the only way to confirm when it left the factory (not when it was made) is to get it lettered by the factory.

    It also seems to have some sort of aftermarket device mounted at the top of the sideplate. This may be some sort of hammer block that permits a user to "lock up" the action to prevent someone else from firing the gun. Do not confuse this with Smith & Wesson's current-day internal lock.
     
  3. HKGuns

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    Thanks fluff, but that aftermarket thing is a QR code sticker I've not yet removed. Most likely added by Bud's for inventory purposes.

    While it looks worn, it locks up very tightly at every cylinder position and the bore is extremely bright and shiny with very well pronounced rifling.
     
  4. bluethunder1962

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    I have one that was my fathers my numbers start with D415. I know he bought it in 1971. I have the book that came with it and he wrote the date on it
     
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    Howdy

    According to the Standard Catalog of S&W, D serial number prefixes for models 10, 12, 13, 14, and 45 for 1975-1976 were D750001 through D870000.

    Although Old Fuff is correct. Some Smiths sat in the warehouse for years before being shipped. The only way to determine exactly what condition the gun was when it shipped, barrel length, finish, etc, is to letter it. A letter will not confirm when it was made, but it will confirm the exact date it shipped as well as where it was shipped.

    Usta be that lettering a S&W only cost $30. Upped to $50 a year or two ago. Still a bargain when you consider what it costs to letter a Colt.
     
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  6. Guillermo

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    As I like to tease him, I call him "fluffy" or "the fuffster" but he is "Old Fuff" not "Old Fluff".

    Don't get him mad or he will grind the trigger guards off your revolvers, shotguns, rifles, pellet guns and weedeaters.

    I raised his ire and am now living in fear, hiding my guns.

    :what:
     
  7. Driftwood Johnson

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    My Mistake.

    No Offense meant.
     
  8. Guillermo

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    he assumes that from everyone but me means no harm

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  9. skidder

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    Nice model 10. I like a revolver with some good honest wear. Those Altamonts will give it that finishing touch.
     
  10. Guillermo

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    Like Skidder, I like a gun that has some use.

    I would be happy to pull that out of my holster at the end of the day.
     
  11. HKGuns

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    I'm actually thinking of sending it to S&W for a re-blue. Part of me would like to see it returned to near its original glory. I realize value wise it makes little sense, but I noticed there is some light surface rust on the frame as well that really should be taken care of before it spreads or gets worse.
     
  12. W.E.G.

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    Rust is not like impetigo.

    It won't "spread" unless you neglect the gun further.

    Rub off any loose rust with some bronze wool, oil it, and call it good.

    Its your gun, and your money.
    So do what you want with each.

    My vote would be to clean it, shoot it, and enjoy the honest appearance in its current form.
     
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    That actually looks like a pretty good Police veteran. You got a Smith and Wesson .38 from the "good old days" for a song. Barring serious function problems this is the best deal going for a casual shooter or defense weapon.
     
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    I agree withe rest of the guys on this being a proper "patina" of fair usage rather than abuse. As such I'd be happy to have a gun which looked like that. The wear is sort of like the wrinkles and grey hair on a distinguished looking older person.

    But if you want to restore it to like new then it would look pretty nice too. It's just that it sort of becomes a "born again revolver" that is starting all over.
     
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    None taken of course. I thought I detected what might be a patent number on the bottom of what turned out to be a sticker.

    As for refinishing: If you bought it for shooting, go shoot it. If you have it reblued plan to retire it because you won't want to get it marked up. Rusting won't continue once it's cleaned off.

    Long ago I discovered while working on antiques that an easiest solution is to remove the stocks and soak the gun in a meatloaf pan filled with Marvel Mystery Oil (obtainable at most automobile supply stores). After a day or two the oil will soak into the coating of rust and loosen it's bond to the underlying finish or metal. Take the gun out of the oil bath, blow out the interior with an air hose, and wipe the exterior with cheap paper towels. Dispose of them as soon as you're done, as they are a fire hazard. Rub any remaining rust with a course cloth (such as burlap), or 00000 steel wool. This procedure will have no negative affect on the remaining blue, but will make it shine.
     
  16. 788Ham

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    Leave those beaver gnawed grips on there too, just get some Tru Oil and give them a couple of light coats, be surprised how those will look then! I've got a '57 Colt Cobra that had dried out wood grips, couple of coats, they look like brand new now!

    Enjoy your new piece!
     
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    That is an ex-Australian police revolver from the State of Victoria.
    The sticker on the sideplate is a VPA (Victoria Police Armoury) micro barcode for inventory control.
    I have two VPA revolvers from Bud's and have decided to leave them as is with their and stickers attached.
    they are both great shooters with some "history":

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  18. Guillermo

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    glad they were saved before the Aussies started crushing
     
  19. HKGuns

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    Darn it! I really wish you had posted that before I peeled the sticker off! Oh well, it is good to know where it came from just the same. I wouldn't have ever imagined it came back all the way from down under...... Thanks for your contribution.

    Oh, who let the beavers loose in Victoria? I thought it was mainly Roo's that were running around down there.....
     
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    No beavers down under. Dingos.
    OTOH, some of these Aussie revolvers look as if the cops used them like boomerangs to knock the perps out. Saves on ammo that way.
     
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    Don't refinish her, she looks just fine, refinishing is unnecessary and undesirable. Just keep her lubed up and you'll be f
     
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  22. Eb1

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    Smith and Wesson will reblue and true that Model 10 for $375. I think. Can someone verify that?
     
  23. HKGuns

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    I appreciate all the encouragement to leave it as is, but I WILL still shoot it after refinishing and I like to put my own marks on my pistols. I don't own any safe queens, all my guns are used as I can and as the hunting season's roll on throughout the year.

    Eb1, I dropped it off at FedEx this afternoon. I'll let you know when they send me their estimate for my authorization to start work. They told me between $220 & $240 over the phone.

    I'll post before and after pictures so ya'll can see the difference when I get it back in around 10 weeks.
     
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    Even better!
     
  25. bluethunder1962

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    Little insperation

    My fathers gun. I put the grips on it.
     

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