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Building an anti-Anti-gun logical comeback list. Please contribute

Discussion in 'Legal' started by ancient_philosophy, Jun 18, 2007.

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  1. ancient_philosophy

    ancient_philosophy member

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    please assist with pity 'one-liners' , i am building a list....here are a few ive used well in the past:::

    "well, owning/carrying gun means your afraid...." (ive encountered this one often)

    .Reply:..."that doesnt follow, ...since you have a fire-extinguisher in your house, this must prove you have an unreasonable fear of fires"
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    "guns cause crime"....etc

    Reply: "by that logic, forks cause obesity"
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    a Lethal Force encouter takes on average, 2 mins from start to end.

    a 911 call, takes on average 16 mins. to respond.

    now........Ask me again why i carry a gun.
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    "why do you carry a gun, you planning on killing someone?"

    Reply: why do you wear a seatbelt? you plan on having a crash?"


    ( i have many more) ;)
     
  2. DontBurnMyFlag

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    I like this.

    However, some people are going to need more than clever one liners to see our side of the story. Just be prepared to back them up, either with facts, statistics or just a general conversation explaining your beliefs.


    I like to call people out on their ignorance.

    examples are fuzzy at the moment
     
  3. PILMAN

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    I always get the typical

    "Does that mean everyone should have nukes?"

    "Should school kids be armed?"

    "Are you compensating for a small penis?" (Get this a lot, what the heck does this have to do with guns?)

    "Everything in life is a priviledge including firearms"

    "Where do you think criminals get firearms? They steal them from people therefore people are the suppliers and the problem, duh"

    "Europe banned guns and their murder rate is lower than Americas"

    "We should have a licensing system in place like cars, that would stop incompetent people from causing further damage"

    "Why do you need a 30 round clip?!" (I hate the term clip)

    "Why would you need an AK47 and an uzi for hunting?"

    "You are nothing more than a right wing, church going inbred redneck who probably drives a pick up truck and has a shotgun rack" (Funny as I was born in the north, rather agnostic, and drive a import.)

    "Yes everyone being armed is a good thing, that's why Africa is a hell hole"

    "Everyone should be required to take a test and be trained to show proficiency in firearms, there are too many idiots running around with guns" (Get this one almost all the time)

    etc. etc.
     
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    Here is a short one I have seen.

     
  5. Deanimator

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    Me - "Why? Are you planning to do something that would make it a good idea for me to kill you?"

    That reminds me of the woman hating Brit who once said to me in usenet, "Women shouldn't be allowed to carry guns because I might be mistaken for a rapist and shot!"

    Me - "How is it that you conduct yourself around women that you'd be likely to be 'mistaken' for a rapist? My advice to you is to put down that butcher knife, pull up your pants and go home."
     
  6. Archangel

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    "Should school kids be armed?"
    No, but their teachers should be.

    "Are you compensating for a small penis?"
    I forget who it was, but someone on THR awhile back responded to this with "Hell yes, I'm compensating. If I could kill something at 500 yards with my penis, I wouldn't need a gun."

    "Everything in life is a priviledge including firearms"
    I thought it was a Bill of Rights, not a Bill of Priviledges.

    "Where do you think criminals get firearms? They steal them from people therefore people are the suppliers and the problem, duh"
    So let's ban cars. That will stop car theft.

    "Europe banned guns and their murder rate is lower than Americas"
    Wow, how many lies can you get in one sentance?

    "We should have a licensing system in place like cars, that would stop incompetent people from causing further damage"
    Ok, so if I get a license to carry a gun, it will be honored by every state. Every state must issue you a license if you meet the requirements. Anyone, any age, can buy as many as they want, and can use them on private property, no license required. Just like cars. I like it.

    "Why do you need a 30 round clip?!"
    Why do you need a 30 gig iPod?

    "Why would you need an AK47 and an uzi for hunting?"
    Who says I'm hunting?

    "You are nothing more than a right wing, church going inbred redneck who probably drives a pick up truck and has a shotgun rack"
    <response not high road>

    "Yes everyone being armed is a good thing, that's why Africa is a hell hole"
    Yeah, right, everyone is africa is armed. That's how they could kill a half million people with machetes.

    "Everyone should be required to take a test and be trained to show proficiency in firearms, there are too many idiots running around with guns"
    I agree. Everyone should be trained in proficiency with firearms.
     
  7. Double Naught Spy

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    The problem with trying to debate with somebody diametrically opposed to your views on a hot topic such as guns is that neither side recognizes the same logic values as the other side and so what is perceived as logic and being logical by one group is not viewed in the same manner as the opposing group. The differences really come down to an almost religious fervor.

    Based on other threads that have include anti-gun retorts, what we pro-gun folks see as clear cut and clever insight is often perceived by the anti-gun people as ignorance and stupidity and vice versa.

    The logical comebacks work for us because we believe them to be true just like the antis' logical comebacks work for them.
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    Number 9 above was interesting. So the NRA found that the "average" gun owner is better educated and has a higher income than the rest of America? Based on that survey, gun owners earn more as individuals than the national household income and considerably more than the national income for individuals. The education difference is fairly amazing as well. Me thinks their survey is likely biased.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average_Joe
     
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    Q. "Why do you carry a gun?" A. "Why do you wear a seatbelt(asside from it being the law)? In case you need one?"
    Q. "Why do you carry a gun?" A. "Do you see any cops around here to protect me?"
    Q. "Why do you need 30 guns?" A. "Because zombies are coming faster than I can reload one gun 29 times"---always liked saying this one!
    Q. "Why shouldn't we register guns?" A. "Well that is what they did in the late 30's and 40's in Europe, look what happened to those people."
     
  9. wacki

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    Anti: Lots of children die in gun accidents
    Response: Even more children (under 5) die in one gallon buckets of water

    Anti: I don't want a gun in my house near my kids
    Response: Do you have a swimming pool? That's 100x more likely to kill your kids.
     
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    Liberals for some reason when it comes to guns, the HUMAN element is not blamed, but the gun is. This shouldn't surprise anyone when they look at liberal ideology. These same peope do not blame criminals for crime, poor people for poverty or anyone for their vices. All vices are diseases and we are just victims etc....
     
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    I ask such people if they worship rocks and trees. When they ask why, I just tell them that people who attribute agency to inanimate objects tend to be primitive animists who engage in such practices...
     
  13. applesanity

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    The anti-gun argument is about 80% emotion and 20% bad logic. There's no way you can counter with 100% valid, sound logic. The only real way to win is to remove the emotional, mostly fear-based element.

    Take an anti to the range, let that anti pop off a couple hundred rounds, and don't be surprised by the grin on his/ her face afterwards.
     
  14. JohnL2

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    No, I'd say "Because there are a lot of crazy unscrupulous people out there and no matter how many laws you have they will obtain guns. That is why I carry a gun so that I can shoot and kill them if they try to harm me and even the likes of you."
     
  15. ancient_philosophy

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    "i dont believe in murdering someone".

    Reply: 'neither do i, I believe in killing murderers who are unjustly out to take my life"
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    "I'll never own/touch a gun."

    Reply:: "Good, post that outside your house, its the best invitation for criminals/ burglers"
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    This isn’t the wild west
    --------"Thats right, contrary to all the Cowboy movies, there was almost no gun voilence in the 'wild west', because everyone knew that everyone else had a gun....it was the 'wild west' because it was untamed territory and full of Indians"
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    "guns cause crime"
    --"if that were so, then military bases would be killing fields"
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    "people shouldnt be able to get/buy guns"
    ----"people shouldnt be murdered by criminals, robbed, raped..either,...this is why i carry a gun"
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    "thats what 911 is there for, you dont need a gun"
    ---"thats what the fire dept. is there for, why do you have fire insurance and an Extinguisher?"
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    "I don't believe people should own guns"
    ----"i dont believe in criminals that arent in jail"
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    "guns are made for killing people"
    -----"criminals are made for killing people, thats why criminals are banned, not guns"
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    "They should ban guns"
    ------"they should ban all criminals from existing, until they can, i will carry a gun".
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    "if you carry a gun, youre more likely to get shot"
    -----"if you carry a rubber in your wallet, does that mean youre more likely to have sex?" :scrutiny:
     
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  17. ancient_philosophy

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    "the USA should be gun free"
    ------"VA Tech was a GUN-FREE-ZONE, which is why so many died, none were able to defend themselves"
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    "Are you compensating for a small penis?"
    -------"Yes, my penis isnt large enough or long enough to club criminals" :scrutiny:
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    "Everything in life is a priviledge including firearms"
    ----"Countless 1000s of our fore-fathers faught and died for those rights, including firearms....its no prividedge"
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    "Europe banned guns and their murder rate is lower than Americas"
    ------"not true, only a small number of countries banned citizen ownership of guns....the worst being England, and its gun-crimes are on the rise"
    ___________
     
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    could be even more parallel like this:

    timothy
     
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    Q: "Why do you carry a gun, you planning on killing someone?"

    A: "Oh no, it's just that they're terribly comfortable. I think everyone will be wearing them in the future."

    ;)
     
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    Sorry - wrong thread.
     
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    Always draw to Firefly, Tall Pine

    Jefferson
     
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    Seriously, I wonder where the anti gunners get this garbage especially the "Compensating for a small penis" comment? Me wonders if the million mom march has been opening their dirty mouths again. Seems to be constantly brought up in debates. What does penis length have to do with a gun considering they are two different things? I've heard the comment when it comes to big trucks but to guns? Sounds pretty rediculous. Apparently protecting your family isn't as important as complaining about penis size to these idiots.
     
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    Here...you decide.
     
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    that one is easy to hit back at
    "why would you say that, do you think your penis is a weapon?"
    it puts them on the defensive. Clearly they're some kind of rapist or something.
     
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    lamb: "I will pray for you"


    me: "cool, I'll just shoot a bunch of Sh*t for you;)"
     
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