Bullet 41-503, SWC

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  1. Onty

    Onty Member

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    Being a big fan of 41 Magnum, I am always looking for a nice bullet and mold for it. Unfortunately, selection is not as good as for, 38/357, 44 or 45.

    After reading article written by Glen E. Fryxell The Keith Semiwadcutter (SWC) http://www.lasc.us/Fryxell_Book_Chapter_12_KeithSWC.htm , I had notice that Keith, after created #258, recreated (being disappointed what Lyman did with his 429421) his original 44 cal. SWC that started all, and we have now a wonderful #503.

    Since I was shooting for years half scale silhouettes (recreationally only), I finally succumbed to my friends, went on local competition few times lately, and punched paper. After seeing a nice holes made by WC and SWC bullets, I admired what Keith did when created SWC. Just learned that one local club got a nice size property, and will talk to them and try to organize half scale silhouettes shooting. Well, I started thinking about getting 41 magnum Bisley again, and getting appropriate mold. If I want one mold to do both shooting; paper target and silhouettes, a nice Keith style SWC 220-230 grains IMO is the way to go. To make long story short, after searching on internet, I didn't found what I like, and created my own design:

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    1. Please let me know what do you think about it. Any comment and/or suggestion is welcome.

    2, Who could make a mold? To make just one mold, for MP-Molds or NOE will be too much trouble. Accurate Molds does not make a square shoulder. Any suggestion?

    Thanks
     
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  3. gpb

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    Perhaps Arsenal Bullet molds make what you're looking for. Their drawing does not have enough dimensions to tell if the shoulder is "square". See attached link.

    Arsenal bullet mold http://arsenalmolds.com/products?product_id=70

    I have no Arsenal molds, so I can't comment on how good they are.

    I like and use Accurate bullet molds. However, they put a "draft " on the shoulders and lube grooves. I don't know if they do it because of the limitation of their production methods, or if they do it to make bullet casting easier. I find that with the "draft" that the bullets fall easier from the molds. However, if you want a "square" shoulder they may not be for you.
     
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  5. Onty

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    Thank you Sir, I didn't know about them.
     
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  6. gpb

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    to: Onty: Did you find the bullet mold you were looking for? I'm interested in knowing if you went with the Arsenal Mold and if it worked out for you.

    Thanks, gpb
     
  7. Onty

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    I found Arsenal (thanks), and reviews are quite favorable. I did send e-mail, but no reply. I guess they are overwhelmed by e-mails, a common problem these days. Will try contact them by phone. However, first thing first, I have to get a nice 41 Magnum revolver. I would love to get Bisley with fluted cylinder, but unfluted will be OK. Unfortunately, after searching last several months I was unable locate it. I did find 357 and 44 Bisley, but no 41 Bisley, just standard NMBH. Keep in mind that Bisley revolvers are scarce on this. side of big pond. To get one from USA will cost me about $1000, just for fees and shipping. Same for 1 or 2 guns, possibly for 3. Trying to get few guys interested so we will share the cost.

    Here are latest ideas I was thinking off. Weights are about 220 grains with wheel weight:

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    A fellow in my club (top notch shooter, he was few times a local champion) suggested multi-groove deign. In his SIG-HAMMERLI P-240 he prefers Lee TL358-148WC above all others. And leading is less than with any other bullet.
     
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    https://accuratemolds.com/ ! Plus one...probably has it in his catalogue already. Rod
     
  9. gpb

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    Are you looking for a true Bisley or a Ruger sort of Bisley? I had a Ruger sort of Bisley Blackhawk 357 several years ago. It's gone now, I wish I still had it. I liked the Ruger style of Bisley and would like to try a true Bisley Colt style someday. My preference would be 44-40 or 44 Special.

    I'm somewhat puzzled by the Bisley style. It seems that a good number of people like that style, yet there never seems to be many of them available from the manufacturers.

    I suspect that finding a Bisley in 41 Mag. is going to be tough. There is the option of converting a 357 Bisley to 41 or finding Bisley style grip frame to replace regular Colt style grip frame on a 41 Mag. Good luck in your search.
     
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  10. Onty

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    Yes, I had seen Accurate molds. The problem is that they cannot make sharp shoulder on front band. From what I had seen, if there is an angle, hole in the paper does not have nice sharp edges.

    As for Bisley, I am looking for a Ruger, not original. I did have 357 Bisley. For my taste, too big gun for a caliber. I like 41 Magnum because I would like to use it for target shooting and also for half scale silhouette. In my experience, and my liking, 41 is optimum caliber for both. It will knock down even heavier plates with authority, but I do not need to load full throttle. And after 100-150 rounds, no tingling in my hands.
     
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