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Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by ljnowell, Oct 9, 2011.

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  1. ljnowell

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    Looks like for the first time in a long time I am going to be deer hunting. Since my back injury I had pretty well given up on it, but situations have changed enough to make it very easy for me to hunt. I am planning on using a pistol, because I love to shoot handguns. I own all kinds of guns but handguns are my passion.

    I have a Blackhawk in 45colt with a 7.5" barrel. I can easily hit out to 100 yards with this pistol, as I shoot it at the distance all the time. I load some pretty hot ruger only loads frequently also. I am torn between certain bullets. I have a decent supply of the Missouri Bullet 300gr LTC. The weight is there but the bullet doesnt have the best profile for hunting. I also have Missouri Bullet 255 SWC. I have thought about just saying the heck with it and using some of my hot loads of those(which are really, really, hot).

    The last thought is going online and sourcing some bullets. I think that a wide flat nosed lead bullet is probably better than an expanding bullet, and to be honest, I dont know that hollowpoints are legal in my state, I have to check that.

    I dont mind spending 50 bucks or so on some bullets, give me your opinions and recommendations.
     
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    My 44 mag and 357 mag hunting loads for my SBH and BH are using Missouri Bullet Company bullets. Your Elmer Keith 255gr bullet for the 45 colt would be a good deer round.
     
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    That was my thought, a SWC makes a nice hole. We do have some big ol' deer here in IL though, so I wouldnt mind putting a little more bullet out there. I wish Missouri Bullet made a 300gr WFN bullet. I am leaning more towards the SWC right now.
     
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    I use their WNFP they call the 44 smasher in my 44 mag. Our deer in MN are big too but they fall hard when hit with a 158gr SWC, or a 240gr WNFP.
     
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    Hey partner. I tried hunting with my Blackhawk last year, but didn't have much luck. Hopefully this year will be better.
    I'm going to be using a load I got from you actually. I'm going to be packing the 255 grain SWC from MBC, pushed by 17 grains of 2400. It's a very accurate load in mine, and not that hot if I recall correctly. I won't be shooting anywhere near 100 yds though. I'm planning on hunting my bow stand with it and the farthest I can see is 50 yds or so. I figure that load will get the job done fine.
    Happy hunting.
     
  6. ljnowell

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    Thats a nice load, I have shot lots of those! I have loaded 255 all the way up to 22gr. At that level its quite uncomfortable to shoot, but its still very acccuate.
     
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    I'm not a hunter, but I like a 255 grain RNFP cast bullet and 16.5 grains of Blue Dot. (this is a Ruger or Freedom Arms or rifle load) You can go a little higher with it, but I don't know why you'd need to.
     
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    Make sure those bullets are hard enough to withstand those "hot" loads you're talking about. As for which bullet, I would go with the 255gr SWC. The shoulder on the SWC does a very good job of cutting flesh. A 255gr bullet should carry plenty of energy to penetrate too, even if it hit bone.
     
  9. Super.45

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    The shoulder doesn't count; the meplat is what does the work which is why the LBT designs work well. If you want a max meplat hunting bullet in .45 try the Penn Bullets .45 270gr. Thunderhead. It has gotten a lot of favorable reviews and writeups. Check it out at www.pennbullets.com. Good people to deal with.
     
  10. USSR

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    This is what I use for deer with my .45 Colt.

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    Cast of a 25-1 alloy, the HP's weigh ~265 grains, and I load them with 18.0gr of 2400 in Starline brass.

    Don
     
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    I use the MB 255 SWC in my 45 Colt Blackhawk for Deer.

    My Ruger only load is 25.2 grains of Win 296 which gives me 1192 fps with ES 15.78 & SD 5.38

    Recoil is heavy but it is very accurate. I didn"t start hunting with it until late in the season last year and I have yet to take a deer with it, hopefully that will change this season

    Edit to add: that velocity is out of a 4 5/8 inch barrel
     
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    I use a Cast Performance (CP) or Beartooth 265 gr. GCWFN in my .45 Colt (Ruger) Bisley (5.5" barrel).
    I run them @ 1250 fps +-, which is on the warm side but certainly not maxed out. I would be surprised if there is a Whitetail alive this load wouldn't shoot through lengthwise.
    I've had good luck with this load on Ks. Whitetail.
     
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    I hope they hold up, I have been loading them for a few years now! lol. Seriously though, the bullets can handle the speed and are accurate.

    I would have to pass. I dont generally do business with people that take money and send bullets a year or two later, or never. I also do not do business with people that will attempt to attack another business owner using underhanded methods, such as planting people in message forums. As a third point, I dont do business with people that will come to a forum and threaten the members that they are attempting to do business with. So you could say that I wont be doing business with Penn Bullets.

    On a related note, I notice that you link the same way the owner of Penn Bullets does, and your posts seem to point to a trend. Seems like you showed up about the time that he was shown the door too. Funny.
     
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    Thats a heck of a nice bullet there. What kind of penetration and expansion are you getting?
     
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    You'll have to talk to Vern Humphrey about that, he did the testing. Started out with an alloy low in tin, and the front ends fractured during testing. Switched to a 25-1 alloy without any antimony, and Vern reported classic mushrooming.

    Don
     
  16. Super.45

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    I don't think it funny.

    Ljnowell, the only "trend" I see here is that this makes the 2nd time you have personally attacked me and my postings which is very clearly in violation of the rules here.
    I have made no secret that I have dealt with now 4 cast bullet mfgs. products and have found all of them to be excellent. I have reported as much.
    You have posted what I am sure is untrue information about a company I have had a good service and product from.
    I don't know or care what the source of your problems are but please refrain from attacking me personally. I know the owners of all the companies I deal with and found all of them to be good people in my personal expierance.
    It was from the recommendation from one of them (and not the one you think) that I join this forum and have enjoyed my time here untill you decided to attack me.
     
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    I dont really care what you believe, right here on these forums is plenty of documentation. I can also plainly look at your posts and see what you are up to. You can mention other vendors all you want but its obvious what you are doing.

    You can post about getting attacked all you want. I doubt anyone here believes it for a second.
     
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    ljnowell,
    I see nothing wrong with your posts and I have to agree with you. Drive-by attacks against other vendors are not very High Road and you should point it out when you see it. Penn Bullets will never see a penny of my money again either.

    As for good bullets, if for some reason those fantastic Missouri bullets don't do what you need to get done I have to totally agree gas checked bullets from Cast Performance will surely make the grade. I have bought their 180gr GC bullets for use in my .357 Magnum carbine at very high velocities. Outstanding hunting bullets...
     
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    I have read the links that Ljonowell provided. First off they are over 3 years old and anchient history. I object to the exaggerated claims that people waited 1-2 years and never got bullets that they paid for. Nobody in those threads lost a dime to the company.

    I admit that the long wait times of up to 9 months was excessive even by my standards but I felt the owner explained the reasons for that then and I can tell you here and now that is no longer the case. I have recieved orders from all the suppliers in reasonable time as well as excellent help when needed.

    I find it objectionable that when someone like myself posts a postive expeirance that someone has to attack it. Not very High Road.
    I also find that in the second thread that Ljnowell himself instigated the attack against the company and has no personal dealings with the company. Yet during that time the owner was having health issues and explained his problems yet Ljnowell seems to like to kick a guy when he's down and continue to do so.
    I have seen low behavior but this is really low.
    I can see I am not going to win this argument and don't care. I have had my say and feel no need to drag this on any further.
    I will continue to post my expierances with all the people I deal with good and bad.
    Ljnowell you can spin this anyway you want and I know you will as you are that kind of person but the rest of the forum memebers can see you for the person you truly are.
     
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    Are you serious? You really think everyone in this forum doesnt see what you really are, especially after that post? How would you know that no one lost a dime? You can object all you want. I still have PMs from the owner threating me and others if we told the truth about his company. I never attacked Robert Palermo in that thread, just asked him why he was trying to get more business when HE NEVER SENT other peoples orders.

    I think we all know who you are. Anyone can look at your posts and some others and see whats going on. Continue to attack my character all you want. I'm not the one that makes fake accounts so that I can plug my own business and try to tear down others, all the while making threats to forum members.
     
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    if you can use a holow point I would look at the new barnes 45 bullets..I load them in the exact same pistol.. I have had nothing but awesome performance with all barnes I've used... If your set on lead, or it is required, I have had excellent accuracy from MO bullet... and I only live a short distnace from them:neener:



    and on a side note I have never heard of this penn bullet discussion on here before, but based on this thread only... super 45 seems rather belligerent, and suspect.. how would you know if no one lost money unless you were personally involved?
     
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    suzukiasm, I am only responding to what Ljnowell has said and he pointed to two threads after he said that people waited 1 -2 years for bullets and were charged and never recieved them. In neither of those threads do I see evidence of that.
    If you are going to claim something then show me the proof of that claim because its not in either one of those threads. So wheres the proof of his statements?

    I am not being belligerent but being annoyed (twice now) by Ljnowell when I have made favorable comments about Penn. He has never commented on the other suppliers I have mentioned so I must be suspect.
    The fact is I have tried 4 diffrent mfgs of bullets and have found all of them to be quite good.
    I do however find differances in performance among them. Not all bullets from any one mfg have performed the best in all my guns which I find most curious. Right now the best 9mm bullets I have found are coming from Mastercast in IL.
    Penns .45s have been the best so far and the Dardas in .38s is doing really well for me.
    I am currently trying some Laser Cast but haven shot enough to form a detailed opnion.
     
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    Yeah, sure. OK. Its all out there and I suspect you already know it all anyway. Anyone that is interested can surely go and read all about it. Its all wrapped up in the THR archives. All the juicy goodness. The PMs I have stored in my inbox from the owner of Penn Bullets are enough to prove his real character. The fact that he comes here and shills for his company and either pays people or does it himself to come and badmouth competitors says the rest.
     
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