Bullet Sizes for the 1858 Remington New Model Army .44 Caliber Revolver

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  1. DomainMasters

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    Hi Everybody,

    I have a question about Bullet Sizes for the 1858 Remington New Model Army .44 Caliber Revolver. I am casting my own bullets and round balls for my 1858 Remington New Model Army .44 Caliber Stainless Steel Target Revolver. The diameter of the round ball from the Lee double cavity mold is .451" and is 138 grn. The diameter of the conical bullet from the Lee double cavity mold is .450" and the bullet itself is a 1R Round Point that weighs 200 grn.

    I want to get a 6 cavity mold for the conical bullet but the only one I can find is a Lee .452" and 228 grn. and is a 1R round point. Produces a .452 diameter 228 grain round nose bullet suitable for cartridges like 45 ACP, 45 Colt etc. but is it suitable for .44 caliber black powder revolver? It looks exactly like the black powder bullet according to the image with the ad for the 6 cavity mold.

    Anyway, if anyone has any information or opinions about this I would appreciate any input.

    Thanks for your help.
    Rich Williams
    Astor, Florida
     
  2. swathdiver

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    I figure this gun was made by Pietta, right? Pietta has changed their chamber and land and groove diameters over the years. You can give us the date code and we can get close but your best bet will be to mike the chambers and slug the bore to know exactly what your sixgun will like.

    Regardless of size, Kaido's conicals will fit in your sixgun and he offers six cavity molds. They are accurate and proven killers on big game being a modification of a Keith design for cap and ball.
     
  3. rodwha

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    The 6 cavity mold you listed is not meant for cap n ball revolvers. In order to ensure a straight seating of the boolit it needs a rebated base that will fit inside the chambers. On a Pietta it is likely around 0.446" and on an Uberti about 0.450".

    As SD mentioned Kaido sells an affordable mold. I'm unsure of his lighter version(s) but the 240 grn version is a modified Lee 255 grn bullet meant for the .45 Colt.

    Another option is Big Lube or you can browse what Accurate Molds has to offer or have him create exactly what you want, which is what I did.

    If you have a Pietta model you may be interested in having the chambers reamed closer to bore (0.452"). Mins are now 0.449" and chamfered but I'm considering opening them up further.
     
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    where can a guy buy these molds, plus where can I get these chambers opened up??
     
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    I don't recall Kaido's email but the opening of the chambers is another ordeal. Fly worked a deal with me to do mine.

    Unfortunately when the chambers , such as with a Pietta, are so undersized you need more equipment. I'm at the point where I could get away with a Brownell hand reamer most likely.
     
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    Google Kaido Ojamaa. email or call. He's one of us, a guy who loves to hunt wild hogs with cap and ball in Florida.
     
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    Probably won't help you, but my 1984 Navy Arms (Pietta) Shooters model recommends and shoots .457 round ball, and with the conversion cylinder I load .454 dia. bullets for the .45 Colt and Schoffield cartridges. On the other hand, my 1992 Pietta Old Army shoots .454 round balls and .454 bullets. They have changed over the years like has already been stated.
     
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