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Bush receives antique pistols, $10k rifle from King of Jordan

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Telperion, Jun 16, 2006.

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  1. Telperion

    Telperion Member

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    Apparently, when you are the President, all sorts of people give you stuff. Among other things, His Majesty King Abdullah II of Jordan gifted the President with 11 antique firearms (including a 1866 Winchester carbine and a 1851 Colt Navy pistol) and also a scoped Dakota Arms rifle.

    It boggles the mind to ponder what the General Services Administration will do with the aromatherapy gift set given to Donald Rumsfeld. The guns are listed as going into the foreign archives. Does this mean they will become museum pieces at some later date?
     
  2. Lucky

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    I like that Jordanian guy! If I started a fan club...
     
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    "It's good to be the king!" - Mel Brooks, History of the World Part 1
     
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    That's the only reason given for the majority of these "gifts" from "donors".


    Speaking of the gifts, most of them seem to be worth very little... any consumables are "handled pursuant to Secret Service Policy", like the Tunisian dates. Trashed, basically?
     
  5. Preacherman

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    No, the Secret Service get to eat them.

    :neener:
     
  6. Lupinus

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    And who says they aren't our friends? I want friends like that. If any of you feel the need to be friends like that I'm more then willing to give you my address as a good faith move to our new friendship :neener:

    Wonder if Bush had to fill out the importation forms? And aint guns banned in DC? Wonder if he is allowed to have guns at the white house?
     
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    The ATFE says that antiques are not considered firearms for import purposes.

    Don't know if he is supposed to, but doesn't he have Saddams Hi-Power in the Oval Office too? Also, I have heard of some Senators keeping ML's on display in their offices. Doesn't Trent Lott have an NRA presentation rifle and a Mississippi Rifle (that was supposadly Jefferson Davis' rifle during the Mexican War) in his office??
     
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    A Dakota! I salute Abdullah's taste.
     
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    The Jordanian Kind is a good guy, aiui, a moderate trying to modernize his country. And he deals with fanatics every day. He's got a tough job.
     
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    Afaik he can't keep them. There's a one pound gold coin in the Sec Defs office that China gave the one in office at the time. And there are other trinkets. I don't know what happens to the others.
     
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    As I understand it, the President (or former Presidents) can ask to borrow such items from the archives for display in their office or library, but they're still the property of the government and eventually must be returned.

    Kharn
     
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    It'll show up at either the Smithsonian or the Dubya Presidential Library.
     
  14. El Tejon

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    FWIW, the King of Jordan is a Gunsite grad.:)
     
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    And an extra in a Star Trek: The Next Generation episode.
     
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    As I recall, from Gen. Powell's autobiography, high officials have to turn gifts from FNs over to GSA, and then get first chance to buy them back--he cited a case where the Russians gave him an AK47. (Don't remember details or page #s, though.)
     
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    If we are trying to bring democracy to the mid-east, why does Jordan have a King?
     
  18. Pilgrim

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    Jordan is a constitutional monarchy. The king acts as the executive branch. He can be overruled by 2/3rds of both houses of the national assembly.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan#Constitution

    Great Britain still has a monarch and we don't get excited about it.

    Pilgrim
     
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    About 25 years ago, I got to hang with the King's brother and two nephews.
    Pretty cool thing for a 13 year old.
    Short story, my father was a V.P. at World Airways. Prince and sons and entourage are touring the States in a World charter. They spend a day at an amusment park. Dad gets his kids to go along.
    Tons of security, Secret Service, State Police, locals, FBI, park security, some others?, and Jordanian.
    We get to go in all of the exits to the rides and straight on; wanna go again, sure. Five times in a raow while the paying customers wait, sure!

    One of the kids wants food, park security and SS run ahead and clear out restaurant pronto. Entourage walks in and orders whatever without paying.

    What a great day for a kid who got to go along.
     
  20. Sylvilagus Aquaticus

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    Charlie Wilson's (D-TX, Lufkin) office was an armory. The Afghans sent him all kinds of stuff...the first Stinger tubes to bring down HiNDs, AK's captured from dead Russians, RPG7's; not to mention all the furs and rugs they'd send over to raise money for the cause.

    See "Charlie Wilson's War". Good read about the Muj when we backed them against the Russians. Gives some of the back story on why they're a problem now and why the Pakistanis were/are our friends.

    Regards,
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    What do you want to bet that thing has a wee little bug in it :D
     
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    Right. But why does Jordan have a constitutional monarchy if we are trying to bring democracy to the mid-east?

    I don't see what the English royal family has to do with it. They don't have any political decision making power now as far as I can tell.
     
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    Note those in bold are monarchies with real political power playing a role in goverment. Our version of democratic republic isn't the only version.

    Constitutional Monarchies
    Antigua and Barbuda
    Australia
    Bahrain
    Belgium
    Cambodia
    Canada
    Denmark
    Grenada
    Japan
    Jordan
    Kuwait
    Lesotho
    Liechtenstein
    Luxembourg

    Malaysia
    Monaco
    Morocco
    Nepal
    Netherlands
    Norway

    Oman
    Papua New Guinea
    Saint Kitts and Nevis
    Samoa
    Sweden
    Thailand

    Tonga
    Tuvalu
    United Kingdom
     
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    hso, thanks for that info.

    From looking at the data you provided, it sort of looks like if you are the friend of the US, a monarchy is OK.

    But if you are our enemy, we need to do a regime change and set up a "democracy".
     
  25. JohnBT

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    And I think that's a gross oversimplification.

    John
     
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