Bust a cap in a snowman LOL ! 15 yds, 15 rounds in 30 seconds

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Yep, the USP loaded 12+1 would be best. Start from the feet and work up.
 
Yes the USP .45 Expert is what I'm gonna use, I know it will hit precise when using a 6 o clock hold on the target at 15 yds and I can do a fast mag change with it because it is left shooter friendly. Although they say 15 shots but I only count 12 buttons on the target.
 
Think I'll use my FN High Power - Mec Gar mag holds 15 rounds, so no reloads required! :D
All I have to do is not miss... :eek:
 
lionking said:
lol my local gun shop is having this competition next Saturday and I'm gonna enter. Must be centerfire, no lasers or optics.

So it got me to thinking, what should I use?
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Oh boy. When there finally is a perfect, almost tailor-made competition for Sako Triace in .32S&W Long I'm a few thousands of miles away.
Benelli MP90/95, MP3S or any other ISSF race gun would be an equally unfair advantage in that, too. An even cheekier alternative would be to bring a Taurus Judge or S&W Governor loaded with .410 bird shot. After 15 rounds I'm pretty confident that the center of each button has a hole in it. :)
 
yeah, but the Judge/Governor would kill you on reload time - 15 seconds isn't much..... :)
 
I guess the gun one uses has more to do with how serious the shooter is in actually winning as opposed to just having some good laughs. So the question becomes one of what are the chances of actually winning something? How good are you when others are watching?

When it involves iron sight I do it but not really my thing (60 years old trifocals and so forth). But I wanted to get a feel for shooting this but I haven't had the time to hit the range with a rough approximation of the snowman target. So I took a look at my scores from a fairly large falling steel match this year where I shot classic (6 shot) revolver. I guess in theory while allowed 15 shots there are actually 12 targets or individual places to put a round on the snowman so if all went well a 6 shot revolver could do this with only 1 reload.

The thing about falling steel is you shoot until you knock the target down it's shots unlimited but the clock is running. Different from the snowman matches where shots are limited.

So me being a iron sight revolver piker shooting a 6 shot S&W 686 my worse stage was in the low 50 seconds (55 seconds) shooting at 34 targets until they fell at 25 yards, so certainly had a few misses while the clock was running. So if we divide this in half to approximate 15 shots (in this case targets) and also divide the finish time in half we can say 17 shots at 27.5 seconds at almost twice the distance. And again I'm a piker, still if this were local to me I would do it with a 6 shot revolver with 2 reloads knowing that I will certainly beat some of the guys with 15 rounds in the basement. An event open to the general public most likely there will be some targets with no hits on any of the circles, so chances of being laughed at are probably minimal. But even so who cares, just go out and have fun. If I wanted the best possible score in as fast a time as I could get I would use my 8 shot iron sight revo that would be only 1 reload.
 
All my choices would most likely be high capacity 9mm.s. First one up would be my Browning Hi-Power with one reload. Next would be my Ruger SR9c with the spare 17 round magazine. If not one of those two then my SIG P229 would get the nod with it's 15 round magazine. No reload needed (hopefully).

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ATLDave said:
How big is the snowman, and how big are the circle/targets?
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According to the link provided by Pat Riot, the overall all size of the target is 23"x35"

I would say that the 12 circles are roughly 4" in diameter, the circles at the bottom are bigger than the ones on top but I think 4" would be about the average size. So yeah, at 45 feet you have to actually aim but 30 seconds is a lot of time even if you are doing two revolver reloads.
 
thomas15 said:
According to the link provided by Pat Riot, the overall all size of the target is 23"x35"

I would say that the 12 circles are roughly 4" in diameter, the circles at the bottom are bigger than the ones on top but I think 4" would be about the average size. So yeah, at 45 feet you have to actually aim but 30 seconds is a lot of time even if you are doing two revolver reloads.
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well then - how about you try it and report the results? :)
 
Merle1 said:
well then - how about you try it and report the results?
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Are you challenging me to a contest Merle1?

As a reminder, I said:
thomas15 said:
So me being a iron sight revolver piker shooting a 6 shot S&W 686 my worse stage was in the low 50 seconds (55 seconds) shooting at 34 targets until they fell at 25 yards, so certainly had a few misses while the clock was running. So if we divide this in half to approximate 15 shots (in this case targets) and also divide the finish time in half we can say 17 shots at 27.5 seconds at almost twice the distance. And again I'm a piker, still if this were local to me I would do it with a 6 shot revolver with 2 reloads knowing that I will certainly beat some of the guys with 15 rounds in the basement. An event open to the general public most likely there will be some targets with no hits on any of the circles, so chances of being laughed at are probably minimal. But even so who cares, just go out and have fun. If I wanted the best possible score in as fast a time as I could get I would use my 8 shot iron sight revo that would be only 1 reload.
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Well as I said on the first page I’ve done a bunch of this kind of contest, we do almost the exact same thing three times on Monday evening in the winter. I’ve done it a half dozen times with a 5 shot revolver and two speed loaders. I can do the two reloads and finish without issue, but because of the time to reload and cocking the hammer with my off hand to shoot single action I have to rush my shots and cannot score as well as I can with my 1911 doing two mag reloads. If I’m not on the clock I shoot the revolver better. Not saying this is the case for everyone but it is for me and the other people I shoot with. It’s is fun though with a revolver no doubt, and it’s great beating people with glocks while using an old antiquated wheel gun.

The average shooter really has their hands full to hit a 4” circle at 15 yards at all, let alone against the clock and having to reload. It’s always an eye opener for people that have never shot small targets at distance. I was pretty well prepared for it when I started because that’s all I ever do.
 
OP listed a Blackhawk as one option. That is what I was referring to. I can reload my 625 and shoot accurately eighteen rounds in 30 seconds easily using moon clips and am pretty sure I can do the same with my 686. I have done the el Presidente a couple times with my Model 19 in under ten seconds.
Single actions, well, that's another story. Had one guy who shot pins with one and had two cylinders, one 357, the other a 9 and switched out but still three shots short.
 
PapaG said:
OP listed a Blackhawk as one option. That is what I was referring to. I can reload my 625 and shoot accurately eighteen rounds in 30 seconds easily using moon clips and am pretty sure I can do the same with my 686. I have done the el Presidente a couple times with my Model 19 in under ten seconds.
Single actions, well, that's another story. Had one guy who shot pins with one and had two cylinders, one 357, the other a 9 and switched out but still three shots short.
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I only listed it as a option in the case that I fell confident on being able to hit a circle dead eye with it at 15 yds, but given the time limit there is no way I could do 15 shot in 30 seconds with it. Only real option is a semi-auto for me. Only semi-auto I feel confident with doing it is my USP, any other one I have I have to use drive the dot sighting and is not as accurate to do that target shooting, My Sig 220 or Beretta 92 are accurate as heck but with 6 o clock hold sighting it will shoot low of the circle at 15 yds.

Anyway gonna go do it tomorrow.
 
Well I didn't do very well, bottom button counted as 5 points, the middle as 10 points, and head shot buttons as 15 points, and I scored 45. You were right who said so, way different when you are under a time limit. Plus the fact that the lower lighting conditions of the indoor range had me off a bit, I'm use to outdoor daylight shooting. Some others I heard did warm up practices I just went in there cold shot with 15 rounds and did it.

But hey it was a eye opener, next time I go by there I'll get the target to show, they had it going on until 6 pm I did it a little after 2 pm.
 
lionking said:
But hey it was a eye opener, next time I go by there
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The fact that there is a "next time" means that the event served it's purpose. Some shooters get discouraged and come up with a million reasons why the whole thing is stupid, others like you lionking realize that when you add pressure that "hey this is fun and I want to do it again". I want to get better. I want to do this. There is always a first time so I'm glad you are still of good cheer.

One bit of advice I wanted to give you but forgot. Most shooters would start with the head and shoot down. Personally I would start at the bottom and shoot up. For two reasons, first the targets are bigger and so that helps you get settled and second it is harder to see the targets when you move down. When you start at the bottom all of the targets are in view, when you start at the top only the top is in view so you are hunting around for an unseen target when you move down.

If you watched others shoot you probably noticed that you cannot judge a shooters ability by what they look like, what they wear or the hardware they carry.
 
thomas15 said:
The fact that there is a "next time" means that the event served it's purpose. Some shooters get discouraged and come up with a million reasons why the whole thing is stupid, others like you lionking realize that when you add pressure that "hey this is fun and I want to do it again". I want to get better. I want to do this. There is always a first time so I'm glad you are still of good cheer.

One bit of advice I wanted to give you but forgot. Most shooters would start with the head and shoot down. Personally I would start at the bottom and shoot up. For two reasons, first the targets are bigger and so that helps you get settled and second it is harder to see the targets when you move down. When you start at the bottom all of the targets are in view, when you start at the top only the top is in view so you are hunting around for an unseen target when you move down.

If you watched others shoot you probably noticed that you cannot judge a shooters ability by what they look like, what they wear or the hardware they carry.
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I'm totally motivated by it not only am I going to get my own snowman targets but I am going to buy a timer and practice to it. I'm use to being a pretty good shot slow fire, well time to get with the time.....or timed lol.:cool:
 
thomas15 said:
One bit of advice I wanted to give you but forgot. Most shooters would start with the head and shoot down. Personally I would start at the bottom and shoot up. For two reasons, first the targets are bigger and so that helps you get settled and second it is harder to see the targets when you move down. When you start at the bottom all of the targets are in view, when you start at the top only the top is in view so you are hunting around for an unseen target when you move down.
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Yep, great advice here, plus one other factor... Recoil is going to lift the muzzle slightly, shooting bottom to top allows you to use this to your advantage rather than fighting harder than normal to go downwards as you combat recoil.
 
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