Butt Stocks for old breech loading double barrel hammer guns.

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  1. Ugly Sauce

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    Do people exist who can make such stocks? And if so, is it crazy-expensive?

    I do search around for parts guns, but they usually/always have broken...butt-stocks. As you know the stock on such a gun is very thin and delicate where it mates to the receiver.

    I have a very nice condition and tight American Gun Co. side by side 12guage hammer gun that I'd love to re-stock, but realize it could be ten times the value of the gun to do that.

    Any suggestions? TIA
     
  2. Steve C

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    If you have a old gun with broken stock for a pattern a new stock can be made. I found this website in about 20 seconds using a google search.

    http://wenig.com/services
     
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    There was a guy near me who did excellent work like that. Unfortunately, he passed away about six months ago. I'm afraid the day will come when there won't be anybody left doing that kind of work. I hope not.
     
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    No, don't have the old stock.
     
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    Was that the guy near Kingston?
     
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    The best in the shotgun stock biz. Boyd's could probably make it, too.
     
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    Well, I'll contact them and see what they $ay. Thanks everyone.
     
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    That's the guy. Did you know him?
     
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    No I've Hurd of him from hurby from the Middletown gun shows. Said he did good work.

    Sad to hear he passed.
     
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    Yeah, me too. He refinished a stock for me on an old Stevens SxS that had a lot of water damage -- came out perfect. He also showed me one of the coolest little rifles I've ever seen: a Cricket in a full-length Mannlicher-style stock that he made for his grandson.
     
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    I'd like to see that cricket lol I've always liked them and really liKe mannlichers. Sucks there's no fun show this year hurbie is getting up there in age and I always like chatting with him about mausers and suck.

    Any idea if someone took over the stuff from the guy in Kingston?
     
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    Have you tried Gunville.com? They do reproduction stocks.
     
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    Is this the gun you have?
    antique american shotgun company double.jpg

    American Gun Company is a name used by Crescent Arms of Norwich, Conn. for its "branded" guns that were sold by mail or at hardware stores, etc. The doubles were manufactured from 1897 to 1931. Savage/Stevens eventually acquired the company and owned it until it was dissolved.

    These were apparently very common guns, if you can match your model with a similar gun branded as another company that Crescent sold to, you might be able to find a stock. A stock maker could take a stock blank similar in design and in let it for the side lock action.

    You might check this site and see what they have as well. I see American Gun company listed, but sold out.
    https://gun-parts.com/doublestocks/
     
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    Wow thanks guys. Great info. Yes that would be the gun. It was given to me, sans-butt stock. But, the gun it's self, is in really nice shape. Locks up like a brand new gun, locks and barrels really nice, so I really want to save it. To my mind, it would be a greater waste not to save it, than to spend more money on it than it's worth. Within reason.
     
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    Numrich Arms may have one. Crescent, sorry to say, wasn't regarded as one of the better guns by just about anyone that dabbles in old SxSs. There are many American made doubles that are regarded as much better guns - Parker, Baker, L.C. Smith, Remington, Ithaca, Colt, Fox, Lefever, and some I'm sure just don't come to mind right now. For those maybe you'd invest to have a stock made, but not for yours. I wanted a stock made for a 1873 Remington lifter - cost about 1500. Got lucky and found a guy who had original pre-inleted Remington stocks from back in the day. Cost me 80$ plus 300 to have it finish fitted and checkered.
     
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    Guns shows, if and when they start back up on any kind of scale, are a good source; there's always that guy who has boxes (usually milk crates) of misc. stocks. It helps if you know what you are looking for, some raise the price (they aren't always marked) if you ask for a specific stock.
     
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    Truth. There's a limit for sure, as to what I would pay. I would even exceed the value of the gun to some extent, just to save it, and considering I got it for free. Even though an old Crescent or American Gun Co. double would not be well regarded, this one is in very excellent shape, locks up like a...lock...and is very well made. Well just hoping for luck and to find a stock for it, or someone who could make one for less than two arms and a leg. Most likely, I'm on a fool's errand, but what else is a fool to do? :)
     
  19. George P

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    If you're going to have to go to the expense of having a stock made, why not have one made that actually fits you? The cost won't be too much more than trying to find someone to make a stock without one to copy.
     
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    Here are some nice blanks, your stock maker/fitter may know Mike:

    https://www.trapshooters.com/threads/walnut-feather-blanks-final-reduction.894765/#post-8596798

    Great price on those two ! Don't like walnut? how about Maple or a lighter walnut?

    https://www.trapshooters.com/threads/some-walnut-some-maple-stock-blanks.895299/

    If you want to go fancy, he has some excellent English Walnut blanks also:

    https://www.trapshooters.com/threads/franquette-english-walnut-crazy-prices-reduced.894725/

    https://www.trapshooters.com/threads/franquette-english-walnut-2-crazy-prices-reduced.894740/

    His contact info is on the bottom of each post.
     
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