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Buying an out of state gun in person.

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by redranger1, Aug 17, 2007.

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  1. redranger1

    redranger1 Member

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    I am from Missouri and there is a Cabelas in KC on the Kansas side. Does anybody know if i can buy a rifle or a pistol there? I am pretty certain that a long gun can be bought, but it is the pistol that i dont know about. Thanks.
     
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    Have the Cabelas store in KC transfer the gun to a Cabelas in Missouri.
     
  3. ChristopherG

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    You cannot buy a handgun other than from a FFL in your state of residence--unless they are willing to ship or otherwise get it to an FFL in your state of residence, who then 'transfers' it to you (for a small fee, say 25 bucks, usually). It's not store policy or anything--it's federal law.
     
  4. GunTech

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    You can buy a rifle in another state as long as the sale is legal in both states.
     
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    Assuming both states are okay with it, you can buy a rifle or a shotgun from an FFL in another state.

    Out of state handguns have to go through an FFL in your state.
     
  6. woof

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    I'd call Cabelas and ask them.
     
  7. rxraptor02

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    you can pay for it in person and have them ship it to your local FFL where you will then pay the fees and fill out the forms.

    I was thinking about doing that at local gun shop in Michigan. However the shipping/transfer cost on top on the gun cost was not worth it.
     
  8. MisterPX

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    You are correct in that the long gun can be bought on site. Handguns will have to be transferred to a dealer in your state.
     
  9. redranger1

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    This beeing the case i wonder why cabelas didnt think about their handgun sales and the location of the store being in KS. Kansas City is alot bigger on the Missouri side.
     
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    Just to clarify, it's legal to buy a long gun out of state from a licensed dealer, but a private sale is illegal.
     
  11. woof

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    another okie, depends where you are. Ohio specifically allows long gun sales between residents of Ohio and residents of any state adjacent to Ohio as long as that state doesn't prevent it.
     
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    You can now buy both rifles AND handguns in MN if you are a WI resident.

    I don't know if the converse is true, interesting nonetheless
     
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    Minnesota law might allow Wisconsin residents to purchase handguns in Minnesota, but federal law doesn't.
     
  14. Gator

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    Not any more. The "contiguous State laws" are history. Several States may still have them on the books, but Federal law supersedes it.
     
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    Cabela's built their store on the Kansas side because that area around the Kansas Speedway is booming and hot in terms of traffic. I'm sure they also wanted to make it convenient for the rather affluent southern Johnson County crowd to get there via I-435. Selling handguns to MO residents wasn't a priority. Bass Pro is building a store on the east side of Independence, so that should help the MO folks around KC.

    You can buy a rifle / shotgun from Cabela's KCK... but a handgun would need shipped direct from Cabela's KCK to a Missouri FFL. Cabela's KCK would probably be happy to do that for a fee.

    There's a new Cabela's in St. Louis and Bass Pro in Springfield carries a fine selection of handguns that rivals Cabela's KCK in selection and price. Can they help you?

    If you're looking for a great rifle deal, Bullseye Shooting Supplies in Marshfield is awesome and shouldn't be too far from Iberia.
     
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    This is a private sale question and I don't mean to hijack this thread.
    From what I hear Fed law says no private sales to out of state residents, OK.

    If my brother drove across state lines to visit me does the Fed allow him to sell me a firearm he is traveling with?

    Can he gift it to my son for christmas?

    If it is illegal to sell can he leave it with me for safe keeping?
    For instance can he store it in my safe while he leaves the country?

    I'm talking Fed law in all these situations and no FFL involved..

    Dang these laws are almost as complicated as the tax laws.
     
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    I would bet handgun sales make up less than 1% of Cabela's annual total sales figure.
     
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    I bought both my AR-15's in MO, when I actually live in CA and am a resident of MN... Less than 5 min to buy 2 stripped lower recievers. I'm active duty Military, there's some lea way with that.

    BTW: Bass Pro in Springfield is a great store, even if you don't want to buy, it's just fun to look at EVERY THING, there's alot of stuff to window shop on
     
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    Fuzzy, Yes he can sell it to you, Yes it can be gifted to your son BUT, it must be transfered through a FFL in your state.

    He can leave it in a safe at your house, provided only he has the combination to the safe.
     
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    So I wonder why at the Sportsman Warehouse in Woodbury Minnesota, they have a sign saying that Wisconsin residents CAN purchase a pistol at the store. I wonder how they get away with breaking federal law so openly?:what:
     
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    I would not carry a gun to another state to sell it face to face. Maybe that would be legal in some cases, it seems much in dispute, but I wouldn't do it either way. On the other hand, if someone from another state is willing to come to my state for a FTF I see no problem from my end. It is a certainty that the law does not impose a duty on me to verify the residence of anyone else. The person coming into my state may or may not be breaking a law, but I am not, at least if I don't know he is coming from out of state. Don't ask, don't tell.
     
  23. halvey

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    Yeah, I can see this working out real well.

    Judge: Mr. Woof, hat do you have to say for yourself, selling a gun illegally?
    Woof: I didn't know the laws sir.
    Judge: Oh, ok then. No problem. Case dismissed. :eek:

    You may want to check out the laws and know what the heck you're doing.
     
  24. Nickotym

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    They probably have an arrangement setup where the WI res picks up the handgun from a Sportsmans Ware house in WI.
     
  25. woof

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    I know for starters that no such charges would ever be brought but if they were it would go like this:

    "Well your honor, I believe I have broken no laws. I sold this .22 rifle to a man who offered to come to my home in response to a posting I made on THR. Had he told me he was a legal resident of another state I would not have made the sale, but he did not. If, your honor, there is a law saying that I, as a private party and not a firearms dealer, must ask the buyer in this circumstance what his state of residence is and verify it then I would like to change my plea to guilty. If not then I move all charges be dropped."
     
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