Buying stuff I want before election.

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I have been recently buying a few things before the Presidential election. Right now guns are as inexpensive as I've seen them since before President Obama was elected.

I bought the following:

1. Ruger GP100 Match Champion (lightly used) - $550
2. Canik TP9SFx (lightly used) - $300
3. H&K USP 40 (lightly used) - $450
4. Ruger American Pistol 9mm (new) - $300

I really like every gun above besides the USP 40. Just not comfortable to shoot.

The TP9SFx is a tack driver (as good as I can drive tacks).
The GP100 MC has a really sweet trigger.
The RAP9 is a solid 9mm duty pistol, I have the RAP45 and I just could not refuse it at the price CDNN was selling it for.

The USP 40 is another story, while it shoots, it punishes the user. I have other 40s and they shoot great. I might end up selling/trading the USP 40.
 
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A Ruger SR9 and SR45 for $200 each new for a total of $423.98 after taxes and free pickup in store was the deal I couldn't pass up. I'm amazed at what some of this pistols are selling for now days. It wasn’t because of the pending election though.
 
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A Ruger SR9 and SR45 for $200 each new for a total of $423.98 after taxes and free pickup in store was the deal I couldn't pass up. I'm amazed at what some of this pistols are selling for now days.
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Where did you find the SR9 and SR45 for $200 each?
 
stchman said:
Where did you find the SR9 and SR45 for $200 each?
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https://thehighroad.org/index.php?t...-200-free-ship-to-store.860203/#post-11317260

I woke up in the morning and was on gun.deals and Sportsmans Warehouse (a local sporting goods to my region Pacific NW) was running the sale. It was at that price briefly and then went up to $250 each, it stayed and may still be at that price. I ordered those two immediately when I saw it, too good to pass up. Wasn't even in the market for them but one has to strike while the iron's hot.
 
They are still on their website on sale ofr $249. It was a really good deal for me because the "free ship to store" and then the FFL transfer is free as well. So I only had to pay taxes of $24 over the $399.98 price for both. Even at $250 that's a great deal.
 
I had a USP .45 back when they first came out. I found the trigger to be mushy, the mag release is funky and the sights just didn’t agree with my eyes so I sent it packing. That gun is one of the very few that I’ve sold over the years that I felt, and still feel, no regret in seeing it go.

The others you got good deals on, I woulda bought them, too :thumbup:.

Stay safe.
 
I need to save up to get myself a 357 mag revolver to pair up with my 1894.

I keep changing what I want. The Taurus 692 is really interesting and probably the most practical. A Blackhawk or other single action might be fun though
 
I have what I need, but not everything I want. OTOH, who ever has everything they want??
I see a real potential to tax ammunition. Although I don't smoke cigarettes; I didn't miss 2 packs for under $4.00 where I buy my gasoline become $5.79 for a pack...
 
I figure market trends irrespective of national politics and general perceptions of the economy, again, irrespective of the natural tendency to talk the economy DOWN in election years will have much more to do with things than the upcoming general election.

Too, folks being paranoid and causing a *run on the banks* of available inventory could gum up the works as well.

Of course, some poor schlubs will always forever queered by local politics.

Todd.
 
I also had an HK USP in .40 many years ago. Got a great deal on it but the gun itself felt too big for my hand and I could never get a comfortable grip on it. The trigger was just okay; nothing special and the whole thing just wasn't a good fit for me.
 
Soooooo,..... who's looking forward to a government "buy back" by some bureaucrat who doesn't know what a Timney trigger or some other upgrade is?

(sorry, but as a wilderness guide I'm always considering worst case scenarios.)
 
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The USP 40 is another story, while it shoots, it punishes the user.
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Could be a fit issue but id change my RSA (80 bucks sadly). I have many .40 pistols (beretta 96, glock, sig 226 and 229, etc) and the USP is the softest shooting of the lot. They are my least favorite of the ones I own. Ergonomics are bad, triggers are even worse but mine shoot exceptionally soft with the dual recoil spring assembly. Likely the only thing I will say good about them.

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All .40 and all shot with the same ammo and in the same day.


But to the OP. I purchased things based on elections and such before. I was a young shooter during the AWB and I'd feel pretty stupid if I let the opportunity slip and wound up wishing I had bought things "back when you still could". If you have it then it's not a bad choice

That said i have a few 3 year old AR rifles that I bought fairly cheap that I could get even cheaper right now.
 
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As always, I will continue to stock up on reloading components. Never can have too much powder or too many primers. Biggest issue is stocking up on bullets... can't seem to stay very far ahead of usage. I need to buy in greater volume but that gets costly. I could start casting but that's relatively expensive and time consuming...my son is particularly averse to the idea of melting lead because of health concerns as well.

Still have a couple lever action rifles I want to get before the elections.
 
crestoncowboy said:
Could be a fit issue but id change my RSA (80 bucks sadly). I have many .40 pistols (beretta 96, glock, sig 226 and 229, etc) and the USP is the softest shooting of the lot. They are my least favorite of the ones I own. Ergonomics are bad, triggers are even worse but mine shoot exceptionally soft with the dual recoil spring assembly. Likely the only thing I will say good about them.

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All .40 and all shot with the same ammo and in the same day.


But to the OP. I purchased things based on elections and such before. I was a young shooter during the AWB and I'd feel pretty stupid if I let the opportunity slip and wound up wishing I had bought things "back when you still could". If you have it then it's not a bad choice

That said i have a few 3 year old AR rifles that I bought fairly cheap that I could get even cheaper right now.
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I own 5 40S&W guns:

Ruger SR40
Ruger P94
Springfield XDM40
FN FNS-40
H&K USP40

Of those the H&K sucks from a shooting aspect. The other 4 guns shoot great, barely any more recoil than a 9mm. Maybe the USP40 needs a stiffer recoil spring to better dampen the gun.
 
stchman said:
Maybe the USP40 needs a stiffer recoil spring to better dampen the gun.
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Something must be going on. I've used 40 calibers since the mid 90s. Fired well over 100k. Probably close to 2. Mostly the G22 gen 3, 229, 226 and USP. All issued to my county, my local city, or the neighboring county. All of them will tell you the USP is terrible on many fronts but is the softest recoiling of the bunch. That said, I've never heard anyone complain about the newer Glocks and Sigs or say....."man I miss my USP"

The recoil spring should be a self contained unit with 2 springs in it. at least all 3 of mine are (00 02 and 04 models) . I do know there was a change at some point but I believe it was just making the second spring captured but I could be wrong The longer one that does the traditional job that other guns do is pretty easy to change by itself and is 15 bucks or so for the standard 12 lb spring. If yours is battering I'd change the entire assembly since I've never seen the second spring (a buffer spring which should be the one sparing the recoil) changed. Hk is proud of the assembly and the last ones I seen ordered were 60 bucks each. The trigger and ergonomics will still "suck" and the magazine release will still be in the wrong place. But recoil really should be light.
 
crestoncowboy said:
Something must be going on. I've used 40 calibers since the mid 90s. Fired well over 100k. Probably close to 2. Mostly the G22 gen 3, 229, 226 and USP. All issued to my county, my local city, or the neighboring county. All of them will tell you the USP is terrible on many fronts but is the softest recoiling of the bunch. That said, I've never heard anyone complain about the newer Glocks and Sigs or say....."man I miss my USP"

The recoil spring should be a self contained unit with 2 springs in it. at least all 3 of mine are (00 02 and 04 models) . I do know there was a change at some point but I believe it was just making the second spring captured but I could be wrong The longer one that does the traditional job that other guns do is pretty easy to change by itself and is 15 bucks or so for the standard 12 lb spring. If yours is battering I'd change the entire assembly since I've never seen the second spring (a buffer spring which should be the one sparing the recoil) changed. Hk is proud of the assembly and the last ones I seen ordered were 60 bucks each. The trigger and ergonomics will still "suck" and the magazine release will still be in the wrong place. But recoil really should be light.
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My USP 40 is a 1993 model. It has a rifled barrel instead of the polygonal barrel, so it is safe to shoot lead bullets. The recoil spring is not captured as I can easily take it off the guide rod.

Any suggestions or do the early models just suck more for recoil than later models?
 
As far as pre election buying, pmags and standard capacity Glock mags and the like are about as cheap as I think they will be. Regardless of the outcome I believe many things will be sold out before the election. Im surprised it's not started.
That said, I bet the ammo makers learned a lesson last shortage and have a massive stock of rimfire and 9mm/223 this time.

And I have certainly held off on buying revolvers opting for the more likely targeted gun groups in the past. Didnt benefit me really as they are still available but I have no regrets. Was a decent strategy I think



stchman said:
recoil spring is not captured as I can easily take it off the guide rod.
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It should be a dual recoil spring. A spring and a buffer spring. They literally called it the "recoil reduction system". I'd change the whole assembly. The captured setup will drop in if you prefer I've heard. The weights should be the same either way
 
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I bought my wife a H&K USP Compact 45 a few years back. It hardly ever sees daylight but as I remember everyone loved shooting it. If it had been a present for me it would be showing a bit of wear by now
 
I'm in the same boat. I'm set on primers and powder for a few years, and OK on brass, but as soon as I buy bullets I go through them. I need to just save up and bite the bullet so to say, and put in some large bulk orders.
 
stchman said:
The USP 40 is another story, while it shoots, it punishes the user. I have other 40s and they shoot great. I might end up selling/trading the USP 40.
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crestoncowboy said:
the USP is the softest shooting of the lot. They are my least favorite of the ones I own. Ergonomics are bad, triggers are even worse but mine shoot exceptionally soft with the dual recoil spring assembly. Likely the only thing I will say good about them.
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As one who was issued this pistol for a few years before our transition to the world of plastic striker-fired pistols, I agree with the above comments. We used to say the USP was the best $400 pistol one could get for $850. I'll give them props on durability, but little else.

But as to the OP -- buy now. I've sold or traded in a few to get what I should've bought before. Broke out the credit card for ammo.

My state legislature has a new "assault weapons" ban and a "high-capacity magazines" ban pre-written for when the new session opens. Right now, guns are relatively inexpensive. So is ammo. I just don't see things staying this way much past the new year.
 
At this time 9mm ammo is 16 cents per round so I'm buying because it will eventually add to the brass stockpile for reloads. I buy 1000 primers anytime I'm near BassPro and like others have said, bullets are what I have problem keeping stocked. I should order some right now.
 
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