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By and large, gun cleaning products and lubes are a marketing gimmick.

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by daniel craig, Apr 1, 2020.

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  1. Zerodefect

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    If you don't carry them.

    But generally speaking, chunks of Skittles in the striker channel of a Glock ain't so hot for reliability. I clean my pistol after shooting so I don't have a heavy stinky carcinogen stuck to my hip. I clean it after carrying it regularly to get lint, dirt, and Skittles out.
     
  2. Kleanbore

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    A good idea, even with a holster. I know that from experience.
     
  3. boom boom
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    These threads are like Groundhog Day yet I can't seem to avoid reading them in the hopes that I learn something new.

    I've learned through experience to avoid .45 v. 9mm, Is the .40 S&W obsolete, what is the best hunting cartridge, etc. threads, but still get suckered into reading firearm lubrication threads in hopes that this time is different.

    Nope, not this time dang it.
     
  4. Mark1964

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    But what IS the best solvent for Skittles fouling?

    Next week's topic: "The 3-inch 20 gauge shell: Is it really all that?"
    Week after that: "My SIG rocks, you're Glock sucks" (It's a sweeps week; we gotta kick it into high gear)
     
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    Same here, but I gotta say seven pages and I've learned absolutely nothing new. Except that someone was compelled to come around and tell us that all the products we use on our firearms are "marketing gimmicks." Is anyone really shocked to hear this? After all, those of us who have budgeting concerns when it comes to these products long ago figured out practical alternatives that cost far less.

    Perhaps I should consider it amazing that in all my years in the military, we made do with only CLP, yet didn't have any problems cleaning our weapons or keeping them lubricated.
     
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    Yep. Been using Breakfree ever since then. Does exactly what it is supposed to & works perfectly.

    That reminds me, I am almost out; need to get some more.
     
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    Off thread but speaking of your avatar image, Amazon Prime has all the old Andy Griffith episodes for streaming including the classic Barney chain-letter episode where Andy makes Barney throw away the chain letter sent by Floyd. Barney has to qualify for firearms and is spooked by all his bad luck after Andy did that.

    Almost up to the Three Wishes for Opie episode. Still hilarious after all these years and repeated viewing.
     
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  8. Daveboone

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    The problem with soap and water....is water. Water which we all try diligently to keep from our firearms. I absolutely believe in boiling hot soapy water for my muzzleloader, and it works fine....also no copper fouling. The barrel in the process is heated up so when you are done scrubbing and running dry patches, it pretty thoroughly dries itself. But of course you still oil it thoroughly.
    WD40....Water Displacement formula 40. That is what it was designed for. When I have been hunting in foul weather and my arms are soaked, after paper towel drying and disssasembly, I spray the action down with WD40 ….to get rid of the moisture. Once done, I blow it out with a air hose, and lubricate as I normally would.
    Anyone who shoots....and I mean SHOOTS.....knows the difference in quality products. Some are junk, some not. Hoppes isn't around for over 100 years because it doesn't work. If I only had my choice of one cleaning product...I am hoppe (ooops Happyhahahahah) with good old HOppes #9, and then Remoil for lubrication. .
     
  9. Walkalong

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    You guys keep loose skittles in your pocket with your pistols?
     
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    Very true and very true. I would guess that I spend more time posting about gun cleaning than actually doing it. And yet, none of my guns seem to be the worse for it.
    I really think we don't disagree on that.

    As I said in Cent #2, I don't even really worry about that, but even though it's a very minor issue, it's such a simple issue to address that I can't come up with a reason NOT to address it.
    Well, I certainly hope that no one takes anything I've said as a claim that gun cleaning/maintenance products are, in general, less toxic than motor oil. If anything, I would guess that across the board, they are MORE toxic. But there are gun cleaning/maintenance products that are non-toxic and, as far as I know, there are no motor oils that could lay claim to such a feature. Of course, (just as a reminder to anyone who's not reading carefully) we both agree that toxicity is really a minor issue even though we both keep going on about it. :D
    I'm just saying that I can buy oil that already comes in a bottle with a good applicator--I have several products on my workbench that came from the factory in bottles with needle applicators. It's not a huge issue or something that I consider to be a true difference maker, I'm just saying that it is nice (convenient? simpler?) not to have to transfer lubes or purchase an additional item to use it the way I want to.
    And adequately protected from corrosion as well. Yeah, generally speaking, firearms lubrication isn't really a complicated problem to solve, so just about any oil will work. And unless a person is neglectful or using a firearm in a harsh environment, just about any oil will provide sufficient corrosion protection too.
    So, this makes sense. I think it would be tremendously difficult to make such a sweeping assessment accurately since there are tons of firearms lubricants on the market, and I would be somewhat skeptical about it since at least a few firearms lubes use the same base lubricant as Mobil 1. Anyway, that aside, if you believe you're getting a better lube and think that the improvement in performance is significant and outweighs any negatives, it would make sense to go with the choice you believe to be superior.
     
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    I'm still lubing out of a gallon jug of Breakfree CLP, that is still the original recipe! a neighbor cleaned out his garage and gave me some Tetra Gun oil that I actually kindof like, or sometimes a few dabs of 10-30 if it happens to be at hand.

    I'm building an engine currently, so I will have a surplus of a 50/50 mix of STP and 30w, this is my favorite lube ever! slick, and clingy. also works well for sizing the most reluctant cases with ease (but messy).

    for the occasional cleaning, I usually use non-chlorinated brake cleaner. or gasoline, or kerosene. or even dish soap and water (Dawn is clearly the best)
     
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    And just about everything else, it seems including, of course, Hoppe's. Lol.
     
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    If we haven't said it in 7 pages then I guess it will have to wait until next time. Lets call this one done.
     
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