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C&B Belly Guns

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by StrawHat, Feb 5, 2013.

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  1. Hoof Hearted

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    Pietta is supposed to be bringing out just that (well sort of):banghead:

    They have a Remington Belt Model DA that belongs to Walt Kirst and told him last year that they were going to produce it but this year at the Shot Show (according to Walt) they avoided the subject completely.......
     
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  2. madcratebuilder

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    Mormon avengers:eek:

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    Friend gave me a old 51 Navy kit that is missing a few parts, so I'm cutting and threading the arbor to just hold the cylinder on. Not a short barrel, no barrel at all. Ultimate belly gun.:what:

    I'll finish this some day.
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  3. Hoof Hearted

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    I forgot to post my "pepperbox":what:

    In the spirit of the thread (and to make Coffinmaker happy):

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  4. Old Dragoon

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    Particulars Please HH! What, where, and the cylinder.
    I love that pepperbox!!
     
  5. StrawHat

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    Hoof Hearted, you have to post more info!
     
  6. Prairie Dawg

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    Here's some of my snubbies!

    Custom ROA with Tru-Ivory grips; percussion & conversion cylinders; Mernickle holster.

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    And.....

    Pietta Factory .44 1860 snubbies with cap guards; Holsters by Angry Angus; I have Thunderer gripframes for these as well.

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    Too much fun!
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  7. Hoof Hearted

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    OK..........

    This was something that EMF was going to bring out last year at Shot Show. They approached me with the thought of making conversions. I posted in a thread about it over on the CAS City forums and a feller that is no longer a contributor (partly over his attitude about the pepperbox) got his panties in a wad and well, it turned into a nightmare. He probably has a great sense of self worth since the negative press was about enough for EMF to drop the project. There were a handful made and sold. It is a Pietta '51 with a pepperbox cylinder and it may, very soon, be a 41 Colt 6 shot pepperbox.

    HH
     
  8. StrawHat

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    HH, Thanks for the info.

    Prarie Dawg, Cap Guards? Please explain and or photos. The Manhatten type of guard or the pin in hte frame or ???
     
  9. StrawHat

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    MCB, good to see you posting again. Those Avengers are part of a collection but I don't remember from whom. I believe the owner displays them at the various Collector Shows. Interesting Dragoon in the one photo!
     
  10. kBob

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    Madcratebuilder,

    I drives me nuts that I can not quite read the info cards on the Mormon Avengers. I have fits trying to blow them up and read them in the hopes that one may have belonged to Brother Rockwell. He appearently started cutting back or having cut back colts when the Paterson was all there was. I have often wondered if he continued carrying bobbed pocket pistols of largest possible caliber into the cartridge era.

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  11. Prairie Dawg

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    Manhatten type -- a thin layer of the recoil shield is milled and replaced with a thin sheet of steel that has a slot for the hammer to pass thru.
    The hammer is milled to fit thru the slot, but it is too narrow for a cap to slip thru into the action.
    I like the mod, as filling the hammer face is with JB weld or something else is not 100% reliable.
    I've never had a manhatten-style cap guard let me down.
    Just sent my new 5.5" 1860s off to Rowdy Yates to have them done.
    I had a pair with the pin type mod several years ago and did not care for it.
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  12. Prairie Dawg

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    That antique Avenging Angels display came from The Utah Gun Collectors Association October 2000 40th Anniversary Gun Show
    Here's a link to the show's stuff -- not the page where I got the images.
    I think I got them from the original show
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  13. Smokin'Joe

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    Hey Prairie Dawg, I second Smokin'Joe's request. I've never heard of these cap-guards before.

    And as for the rest of y'all...Knock if off. you're making me want to start cutting on my guns!
     
  15. Prairie Dawg

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    Here you go:

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    Always wanted both versions of the New Model Belt revolver.
     
  17. Smokin'Joe

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    Prairie Dawg, Thanks for the photos of the Manhattan Cap-Guard on your Colt. Now I see how it's done.
     
  18. madcratebuilder

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    This is from the patent papers

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    Waldo Nutter's book on the Manhattan firearms has a small write up on the cap shield.
     
  19. kBob

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    It looks like from MCBs patent drawing post and the post on this subject last month that the thing does not have a slot for th hammer to pass through but instead is mearly bashed into the cap itself. This would undoubtably reduce cap fouling if it still allowed reliable ignition it would be simpler to make and cleaner than a sheild notched for the hammer to pass through.

    Is it solid on the original guns?

    -kBob
     
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