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C&B Gunsmiths - Repair, Tuning and Conversion Work

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by arcticap, Jun 14, 2020.

  1. TheOutlawKid

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    Lol.mr.woodnbow. 7500 elevation!? Id love to live in a high elevation. It seems odd but for some reason i cam breathe easier and am more active in higher elevations. Like when i visit family near el paso or drive through parts of new mexico...i feel more "alive". My body loves the thin air. Im a scrawny guy too so maybe that has something to do with it?
     
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  2. PowderMark

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    CDC71604-B611-475C-8282-43E38D637101.jpeg I grabbed a new Pietta 51 Navy Sheriff at Cabelas last week. Sent it to Outlaw Kid for a tune. Already have it back. Looks and feels great. Can’t wait to shoot it!
    Thanks again Kid!
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  3. TheOutlawKid

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    Mr.powdermark it was my pleasure! Hope you enjoy it...love working them piettas! Hope its to your expectations.
     
  4. PowderMark

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    I kinda don’t like the trigger guard on the Pietta. Looks too round.
     
  5. TheOutlawKid

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    Hmm i didnt notice that... My piettas have a more oval trigger guard..heres a pic of an extra i have
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  6. TheOutlawKid

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    I use mainly all steel london type back straps and trigger gaurds but i did notice the new piettas from 2018 and 2019 back strap can be removed without loosening the trigger guard screws a little to give it slack...like you can just loosen the 3 screws on the back strap only to remove it and i figured they made fitment adjustments to their designs. Maybe they changed the shape for new models?
     
  7. ShotgunDave

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    The gun with the round trigger guard also has a longer trigger. I prefer that setup, as I have sausages for fingers. The round style are a bit harder to find.
     
  8. Russell13

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    I like the square look myself for the navy
     
  9. drobs

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    Some excellent fast work!

    Here's a little video 2 minute 41 second video:


    Oddly enough the picture is mirrored / rotated.
     
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  10. PowderMark

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    Well done video Mr. Maddox
     
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  11. woodnbow
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    Probably move so easily because of the thinner air... high speed, low drag!
     
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  12. TheOutlawKid

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    Wow great video mr. Drobs..and i was mentioned! Lol made me feel like one of them well know tuners lol.hopefully its to your expectations sir!
     
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  13. Eyrie G. Dogg

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    George "Drobs" Maddox for the kill. Good vid, bud. Can't go wrong with a '51.
     
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  14. wattlebuster

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    Well I sent another Pietta 1860 army To Texas an the Outlawkid did his thing to it. She is right sweet an smooth an has great trigger pull. The pull was a tad heavy but came back just right. It was there an back so fast I didnt have time too miss it. Thanks Outlawkid.
     
  15. TheOutlawKid

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    Glad you liked the outcome! Always happy to hear when i send back a gun that makes the customer happy! The gun was a bit rough but was a great template to work on...thank you for entrusting me with a second gun sir!
     
  16. woodnbow
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    Nice work Kid! My wife’s pistol came today and if I didn’t recognize it I would swear it’s an entirely different gun! Slicked up nicely and tomorrow we’re going to take it out for a trial run. Thanks again!
     
  17. TheOutlawKid

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    Wow it came in already? Figured it would arrive today or tomorrow...was hoping it wouldn't take longer considering how the mail has been. Im so glad you enjoyed it my friend! It was a pleasure to slick it up for you as i know you wanted this gun to be for your wife...nothing like having family to shoot with. And i assure you...its the same gun lol. Lemme know how it goes with the testing!
     
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  18. grter

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    What's the latest story on reamer defeating tapered reproduction cylinders. Is this now common ?
     
  19. woodnbow
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    Seems like it. I’ve only had a few that were reamed and the are great shooters. I will have more to say on the matter in a week or two. Meanwhile...


    A short note to the @TheOutlawKid ... Yes! Remington tens fit very well. Bang, every time. She had no trouble with the revolvers action, and at first was getting a really great surprise break every shot! Her carry guns are a Glock G43 with an aftermarket trigger or an S&W M65 .357 with a real good action tune for DAO and I doubt she’s shot anything but either one in several years so the trigger on the Navy was a pleasant surprise for her. Now she wonders why the Glock trigger can’t be improved!

    All in all you have hit a home run! Thanks again!
     
  20. TheOutlawKid

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    Mr.woodnbow im so very glad your wife enjoyed the tuning i did! I aim to make all guns smooth but paid extra attention to try and make it something a female might find easy to use just in case she isnt used to pulling back a hammer...yours was sooo hard to pull the hammer on, the mainspring was so thick i thought you might have put in a chevy trucks leaf spring! Lol. But after massaging the insides and putting in a wire spring trigger/bolt set up along with replacing the mainspring she smoothed up really nice. Did you know its a completely stock unaltered mainspring? Sure doesnt feel like it huh? After doing all the work i ran a few test shots and only one cap went off! I was shocked and worried the hammer wasnt hitting hard enough....buuuuuut it turned out it was the stock nipples were a hair too short. Luckily i had some new stock metric sized nipples that fit your gun...installed those and BANG! All the caps fired. Not sure what your standard set up is for nipples but i put some choke lube on it, usually i use lanolin or lanolin with graphite powder mix but i figured id just use what you might have available to you. It was a great gun to work on...thank you for trusting me to work on it as i know you are a bit picky on what gets done to them and who works them..im the same way lol. Hopefully this gun being tuned will have your wife preferring cap guns over her two other primary guns.
     
  21. woodnbow
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    She likes it a lot and I’m sure she’s going to get a lot of use from it... for her self defense I still prefer the DAO or Glock safe trigger. She handles either very well and frankly, in a high stress situation I would prefer she has to be a bit more deliberate with the trigger stroke. This is going to be a fun ground squirrel and rabbit shooter!
     
  22. 1KPerDay

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    @TheOutlawKid forgive me For not reading the whole thread but do you do repair work? I have three 1960-70 era repros that have timing issues or other similar problems. Here’s a video of the issues from a good while back. If anyone can suggest a source for parts I can try to fix the more simple stuff myself. But I’ve never fitted a hand etc.

    I THINK these might be Spanish repros. The only marks on them Anywhere is a G on the cylinders. They are defarbed and “antiqued”.

    Forgive the Improper nomenclature. I wasn’t familiar with the “bolt” and “hand” at the time.

     
  23. TheOutlawKid

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    I prefer working on guns that can cycle and run but by looking at your guns i can tell u have some timing issues with your hand and bolt issues....like the thrid gun PROBABLY has too long of a hand but also needs some bolt work. Were you looking to slick then up for performance or just fix the timing? Oh and sorry but i don't work pattersons just open tops.
     
  24. electricfactory

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    Hello OutlawKid,
    I just sent you a pm regarding my Colt 1860 Army. It appears to be functioning ie turning and indexing the cylinder but there's something going on with the half-cock. I'd very much like to send it to you for an action job. I also have an Italian made Dragoon which is likewise functioning but has a very heavy hammer/ mainspring. Please let me know. I'm 'new' to this particualr forum but am well known in most others having to do with muzzleloading and C&B guns.

     
  25. TheOutlawKid

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    PM sent sir!
     
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