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California: some modest proposals for gun control

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Silent Bob, Feb 7, 2013.

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  1. Alaska444

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    I am getting out but not yet gone. A few more months and hopefully say goodbye forever to this place. Really wild what they are proposing. Sadly, it won't make the state a bit safer at all, far to the opposite.
     
  2. Manco

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    There they go again using language and logical fallacies as powerful tools against truth and liberty. So "assault rifles" are such because the military uses similar (-looking) rifles, but "assault bullets" are the kind that the military does NOT use, and they want us to use military-style bullets instead. Does this make any sense whatsoever? Yes, absolutely, as long as we use doublethink, which most people have no trouble doing because they're fixated on the word "assault" and our convoluted refutation confuses them.
     
  3. Cast of One

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    I am proud to be a Californian, but now I rethinking that pride. My plan was to move back to california when I retire, but now I may not if this law passes.
     
  4. ApacheCoTodd

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    KTLA blinks and allows a pro-gun sentiment to be aired?

    In the news coverage of the California-cop-killer manhunt currently centering on Big Bear - due to the suspects truck supposedly being found there - this gal at 1:10 says it plain and clear: "Thank God they haven't taken our guns away, 'cause we can protect ourselves".

    Wow, KTLA? Really!?!

    http://ktla.com/2013/02/08/massive-manhunt-for-ex-cop-moves-to-big-bear/#axzz2KJhYNxwi
     
  5. SoCalNoMore

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    Very good odds actually. When I was there in 94 I didn't think that AWB would get voted in. And now look at their state laws for weapons. I have a good feeling that Cali will pass most if not all of their proposals. Fact of the matter is, overwhelmingly the population is liberal or Hispanic. both of which don't care about having the 2a or guns.
     
  6. SoCalNoMore

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    Sheesh, could you afford to live there in retirement?
     
  7. SoCalNoMore

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    Limiting the ammo to FMJ really worries me. Will the politicians be held accountable for the bullet that goes through the BG and kills an innocent?
     
  8. browneu

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    Correct, however I have a strong suspicion that the legislators believe shooting someone will knock them backward and instantly incapacitate them. They watch to many of their movies.

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  9. Manco

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    They didn't take everybody's guns away?! :eek:
     
  10. Pilot

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    Californians also go to Colorado. Just check out what is going on there. :rolleyes:
     
  11. BoilerUP

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    Modest proposals like eating babies was a modest proposal...
     
  12. Solo

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    You, sir, have never had a fricasseed baby.
     
  13. Creeping Incrementalism

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    Some of the statements at that press conference made by legislators are wrong, some of it hasn't actually been introduced as a bill yet, and it appears some of the reporting (Reddit) is wrong, for instance:I don't think anyone actually mentioned a 500 round ammo purchase limit. I didn't watch the conference itself, but a quick search of the 700+ post thread on CalGuns.net didn't mention it. There is a bill to require a license to purchase ammo, however. Also mentioned is banning all detachable mag semi-autos, but the bill that has been introduced so far is just a placeholder so far.

    So it will take a few months for the Dems to flesh out these bills. Bills in California are normally signed in September and October.

    I encourage all of you who are interested to come to CalGuns.net. It is a very active board--right now there are 4200 members online, by comparison ARFCOM has 10,500--and we have a number of members from other states who are posters. http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/forumdisplay.php?f=71

    I read a book about California demographics, and this statement is no joke. During WWII, a gigantic war industry emerged in California, with a huge influx of Americans mostly from the mid-west. That's in addition to the Dust Bowl folks. It's interesting that the people from Kansas stayed red, while those who came here to California turned blue.
     
  14. Mayvik

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    Feel bad for you...I left after 4 years, and ditched my property at a loss knowing I'd never go back. CA is beautiful country filled with a horde of idiots.

    However, as a current resident of CO (now CA light :( ), CA residents please think about getting your house in order instead of fleeing elsewhere. It just makes it worse for the rest of us when there's absolutely no chance of CA's electoral votes going anywhere but the far left. Using the "run away somewhere better" plan eventually results in one state full of the right left which will be completely politically oppressed by the sea of blue surrounding it.
     
  15. roadchoad

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    I think that is probably what the powers-that-be want. They should hold their ground and fight it.
     
  16. Manco

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    With public opinion being turned against gun owners, the last thing we need is to discriminate against one another. Wouldn't those living in Colorado prefer to have like-minded Californians come to Colorado to help offset the other California transplants you're (apparently) complaining about?

    Not really because they have all the power and wish to retain the revenue that we provide--ideally, for them, we would all turn in our firearms and stay.

    Yes, at least until all is lost, or else this disease we're dealing with might spread.
     
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    Man, I was born and raised in CA. Left for college at 18 and, after gaining political awareness in my late 20s, decided I could never move back despite having so many friends and family in the Bay Area. Between the continual growth of the political class in the State, the broken economy caused by that, and the extreme oversight that system desires and strives for in everyone else's life, there's just no way I could see myself there.

    Heck, I'd be a felon just for crossing state lines with my possessions. An upstanding, productive job-holding professional in one state, never accused of anything more serious than speeding when I was younger; a dangerous felon in need of 10 years (max) of incarceration in CA due to ownership of some pieces of steel, stainless steel, aluminum, and plastic. :confused:
     
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  18. Manco

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    Wise choice--this state is going downhill fast. California used to be a very different place. Sadly, and ironically in light of so many people's snide comments, it has suffered from a tremendous influx of "fruits & nuts" from elsewhere. Only in the last few decades has it been producing and exporting them, and other states will eventually suffer the same fate.
     
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  19. Voyager

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    Where have you been hiding out, what you have opined, has already long since been done. Do the names "Heller & McDonald" mean much? Certain soviet styled states are simply ignoring the law entirely, particularly NY, IL, & KA.
     
  20. Capybara

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    Unfortunately, we are living in the Dystopian future in this state and we are a sign of what is to come in your states. While our leaders and politicians here are evil controlling overlords, I blame what has happened here on the zombies and sheeple that are the electorate. Ultra leftist anti-gunners are going to do what they are going to do, but they can only accomplish their nefarious goals with the complicity of the populace and the majority of the populace here WANT the government to control them. Let's face it, a huge portion of the populace here come from other societies where the government controls every aspect of your life, concepts like freedom and being responsible for your own destiny are foreign concepts to them so they are creating a state where the government controls every aspect of their lives. Sheeple.

    People in this state are statists, want the government to take care of them and all they really care about are their iPhones, XBoxes and big screen TVs. They don't care about freedom, responsibility and making your own path through life, that is why the Feinsteins, Boxers, and Pelosis have all came from this state.

    I was born here and have lived here my entire life. California is the best state as far as the geography and lifestyle and one of the worst states as far as people. There are good, responsible, law abiding gun owners here, but we are so out voted by the electorate as to be insignificant. There was protest in Sacramento yesterday against the announced anti-gun bills and whopping 200 people showed up to protest. Wow, I bet that had a huge effect on what the evil anti-gun overlords are doing.
     
  21. danez71

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    What do you expect with about 2 days of planning and planned to be held on a workday?

    The news outlets work 7 days a week even if the politician dont.

    Why make it harder for the 2A supporters to join?
     
  22. Yo Mama

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    How? I agree with you, it's not that. I just don't see how anymore.

    CA has been a lost cause for a while. Same with NY, NJ, CT, MA, IL, ect...

    What to do. Write, email, call, demonstrate? Then what? They pass what they want anyway because the population centers are heavily anti.

    I fear that many pro gun states are on the edge. Everyone thinks Texas and Arizona are safe. Not so. We in AZ are dealing with a huge change in politics. Even our "Conservative" Gov. Brewer won't sign pro gun legislation. The make up of our state and many others are turning to the entitlement mentality.
     
  23. Gordon

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    If they try retro active stuff or really draconian stuff I think these scumbags are gonna see their heads roll, politically speaking, at least!:neener: All my country boy friends aren't letting no commie gays run them out .:evil:
     
  24. splithoof

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    What "law abiding citizens"? You might have been one yesterday, but you are not one tomorrow. Anyone who upholds any of these laws is nothing but a bucket of Torry scum! As a resident of California, I hope it goes totally bankrupt, collapses, and hits rock-bottom, so we citizens can then start the rebuild process, socialists be damned!
     
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