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Calling Bull Puckey...

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Dimis, Apr 6, 2012.

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  1. Dimis

    Dimis Member

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    I have been on many gun forums and I always see people telling others that they find all these rare never in stock or otherwise expensive firearms for DIRT cheap

    how many of you have posted about AR 15s and heard that you can get the Colt 6920 for less than a grand NEW

    or the pre-lock smith and wessons for $350 NIB....:scrutiny:

    I always read threads about these great deals and Im finally calling people on it

    Show me a single link where I can buy an IN STOCK NEW colt 6920 for under 1000 American Dollars

    Show me where I can find a used Smith and Wesson Revolver without a lock for cheap without it being in such poor condition the only value it has left is the S&W logo

    Its time the whole gun community gets to enjoy this secret stash of inexpensive guns

    so if your THAT GUY and know where we all can get the good stuff for alot less than the average joe give up the goods so the rest of us can afford the ammo for these toys as well
     
  2. psyshack

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    I buy all my guns NIB or accept used gifts. And I do get good deals on new guns. :)
     
  3. KAS1981

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    I heard that frequently about the Colt 6920 when I was AR shopping.....folks claiming you can find them all day for $900. I never found one less than $1100.
     
  4. firesky101

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    Most of my guns have been bought due to a right place right time scenario. If you are looking for a great deal on a specific model, expect to wait a long time and go to a lot of gun shows/shops. The internet does not work so well for steals since there is such a large buyer base they don't have to sell it for half price to just get rid of it. If you are willing to just spend money on a good deal you can find a use for then you can get one at every gun show/shop.
     
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    If you see a nonsense post with links in the sig line, or body, please just report it instead of responding to it.
    Thanks,

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  6. tryshoot

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    I want that 64 corvette with 12,000 miles out of that barn also.
     
  7. Carl N. Brown

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    Well, MSRP is a suggested price, and dealers willing to accept a slimmer profit margin can ignore the suggestion in most cases.

    You can find an estate sale where they don't know or care about the real value of a gun, or you can find someone in pressing need of 80% of the real value of their gun because of emergency auto repair or medical expenses.
     
  8. GoWolfpack

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    You mean you didn't buy your S&W registered magnum from your buddy at the last gun show for $200? Or your 1st gen LNIB Peacemaker for $500 from your pal who just needed new tires on his car?


    I agree, sometimes it's hard to swallow the tales of semi-rare guns sold for half what they're worth to everybody but you.



    Keys to success in gun buying:

    1. Cash in hand
    2. Looking all the time and responding fast to a good deal
    3. State/region specific private sale sites


    If you have money ready to commit to a purchase and you're ready to jump on it, it is possible to find great deals. Private sales are nearly the only way to do this, as dealers know what a gun is worth and price higher. It takes a lot of looking and a lot of patience. I know, because I've done it just by luck, having money to spend and walking into a gun shop right after they marked the price down on something I wanted.
     
  9. Davek1977

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    Good deals may be hard to find, but certainly not impossible. Patience in finding what you are looking for, and the ability (cash in hand) to buy it when you DO finally find it are keys to a good deal.
     
  10. Hacker15E

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    The "below $1000" Colt was actually true there for a while around the end of 2011 and up until a month or so ago.

    There were at least three vendors online that had them at that price.
     
  11. HoosierQ

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    On the whole "Colt's Question": I hate to see people, often here, disparaging other's choice of an AR with the tired line "for $50 more you can have a Colt's". This usually in response to somebody buying their first AR from DPMS, Stag, etc. The cheapest Colt I have ever seen was $1199...and IIRC it was a flat-top with no sights. That bugs me.

    I too have searched far and wide for the "good used S&W revolver for a fraction of the price of..." never seen that. If there is a stash of nice old revolvers somewhere, I'd like to see them.

    Now the talk of the resonably priced police trade in Glocks etc...sure, that I've seen.
     
  12. mcdonl

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    The only thing that ticks me off is when someone says save your money and buy a colt, and not one of those POS <insert brand here> as no one likes it when others call their guns POS and given the size of this board someone is reading that and thinking... "That is not very high road...."
     
  13. ColtPythonElite

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    I have bought more than one "collector" kinda of gun that was mint, NIB, or otherwise desireable for less than the average going rate. None of these deals were advertised or I likely wouldn't have found them. I just happened to be in the right place at the right time with cash in hand.
     
  14. Manson

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    I like many people have found good prices on a gun I was looking for. Not those you mentioned but new firearms of interest to me.

    Several months ago someone mentioned a sig I was looking for was available online from a specific dealer at a very good price. I called my LGS and he said they were a limited run and no longer available. He also said the price was excellent and I should grab one. So I did.

    I think this kind of thing happens from time to time. But for the most part there is a lot of horse pockey on the interwebs.
     
  15. ApacheCoTodd

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    So, instead of getting out there, using your shoe leather and hitting estate sales, gun shows in the first hours (or buying from a fella in line with you), gun shop closings, reading the classifieds (EVERY DAY), auctions and generally going out of your way to make yourself available to the opportunities which others have lucked into... It's easier and more self fulfilling to call others who have been in the right place at the right time, liars.
    As far as links are concerned, that indicates a retail scenario in which the underpriced items might be in stock and available for shipping, I think most folks who post about lower prices are noting generally one time chances that another individual might also find elsewhere if always looking.
    I trip onto amazing deals all the time and sometimes have the cash and sometimes don't but I'm not cluing anyone in in order to compete against them in price or availability unless the item and scenario is repeatable. Call me and others selfish (as well as liars) but I haven't spent all this time to just give up competitive ground for the asking or challenging.
     
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    I agree. I have seen many posts with exaggerated low prices.
     
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    Very well said!

    Dan
     
  18. CoRoMo

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    I can't do that today... because it sold... therefore you can't buy it obviously.

    But you had a chance, only 10 days ago. That's a fact. Be patient, and work hard searching, and you could be as lucky.

    Here you go, one Factory New, Colt 6920 M4 rifle, sold for under $1k: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=278520294

    I know, I know; the price is $999 which is basically $1k, but it's not $1k, in fact it's less. :scrutiny:

    I know, I know; there is shipping added... but not if you arrange to pick it up locally. The seller states that he does not collect sales tax, so it would have truly cost you under $1k, had you been that buyer. You would have written the check for $999.00 and walked out the door. :cool:

    The no frills 6920 probably wholesales for about $980-$990, and at times a distributor might get a promotional run with Colt and offer them at a sale price of a few percentages below that. That's about the only way you'll get one from a dealer south of $1k. :)

    Otherwise, the fellow that recently bought his 6920 for $1,100... and never fired it before he got a divorce and needs fast cash... would probably part with his new rifle for $850 cash. It happens. :D
     
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    I know one thing for sure find me a NIB or good condition Colt "Python" for under $1K and I will call "Bull Puckey"-- Most Colt AR's are usually go between $1,200-$1,500 when I was pricing them awhile back.
     
  20. ColtPythonElite

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    Less than a year ago, I sold a decent Python with original grips for $825....and made money on it after owning it for just a few months.
     
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    You won't find good deal with links on the internet. Very few good deals on new guns period. But I've ran across more than a few on used guns from individuals who needed to raise cash, right now. I keep about $1,000 in an envelope in my safe for those opportunites. When I run across one of those deals I buy, even if I don't want the gun. I can always sell or trade it later, and at profit to buy something I do want.

    About 10 years ago I bought a Colt 1911 for $250 from a guy who needed rent money today. Sold it for $650 2 years ago. Put $50 with it and bought one of the new FN produced Winchesters slightly used. I'm out of pocket $300 on a gun that sells for $1,000.

    I buy almost all my guns this way. Have 15-20 guns in my safe that I have no interest in using. They are there for when the time comes that I can sell at a profit, or trade for something I do want.
     
  22. nosmr2

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    Like others have said, you will seldom get a "deal" on the internet. You can find a good price, but deals are found in person. My neighbor works for himself and is always out and about meeting and talking to people. As much as I hate the word, he is "networking." He recently got a 1964 Army Jeep with 24,000 miles in excellent condition free. He is about to sell the boat he got free a few years ago for around $3,000. He has a habit of being at the right place at the right time. I work at the same place every day and talk to the same people. My odds of a "deal" are much less tied to my desk and searching the internet.
     
  23. walnut1704

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    I bought a NIB Python for $350. 30 years ago.
     
  24. Dimis

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    ah there in lies the rub...

    Apache I am talking of those who say that the colts are readily available at all times to anyone for under 1000 dollars and that used colt 1911s S&W pre locks and other highly sought after firearms are so common all over the country that ANYONE would be considered a fool to have spent more than a few hundred on them

    I am all for the hunt... I accept the challenge of surfing through papers classifieds estate sales and the like but that is not the hoax in question here

    the problem lies in the fact that soooo many folks have had this incredible luck that you too should have the same luck

    I am a man of absolutes and of science and like science this experiment should be repeatable yet over the last 5 or 6 years that i have used the internet for most of my information gathering I have run across this same false claim over and over again

    sure i can believe that you can find an old widow who has no idea what to do with her late husbands firearms
    sure its even understood that a dealership goes out of business and just wants to liquidate the stock they have left
    but this is a rarity not the norm and these are not the claims of the posts
    it is simply stated that these deals are so common that anyone should be able to get them

    so now I am simply asking for proof
     
  25. CoRoMo

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    Turnabout

    Can you now, provide US, with a link regarding that?
     
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