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Campus Concealed Carry Poll - Hit It

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Lambo, Apr 16, 2008.

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  1. Lambo

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    As we mark the Virginia Tech anniversary, a growing number of college students across America are demanding the right to carry guns to class. While most universities ban weapons - these students say they have a right to self defense. So should properly licensed students be allowed to carry concealed weapons to class?

    Yes 67% 1742
    No 33% 873
    Total Votes: 2615
    http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/american.morning/
     
  2. hitbackfirst

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    Done.

    Yes 69% 1990
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    Should properly licensed students be allowed to carry concealed weapons to class?

    Yes 70% 2088
    No 30% 906
    Total Votes: 2994
     
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    Yes 71%
    NO 29%
     
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    Poll hit
     
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    Done. 73% on our side.
     
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    I favor allowing students the right to carry concealed, but an article on the subject raised an interesting point. One police officer (and I imagine his sentiment is far from solitary) suggested it would be difficult to discern who the bad guy was, and who law-abiding citizens were, and you might end up with cops shooting anybody displaying a weapon who wasn't wearing a uniform.
     
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    When was the last time the police actually made it to an incident in progress? At Virginia Tech and NIU they didn't get there until after the respective criminals killed themselves. The police would likely arrive as they would after any defensive gun use in the home.
     
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    Police my have that problem in some cases, but wouldn't it be fixed by the police yelling "Police, drop your weapon" and the armed law abiding student complies by dropping his weapon? I think most students would be happy to be alive and showing their CCW permit to police after the police got to the school considering the alternative is sitting there unarmed waiting for the police or death, whichever gets there first.

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    No 27% 941
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  10. jimbob86

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    The answer to that is ....

    ....... you don't display the weapon. If you need it, clear leather, use it, holster it, get out of dodge as soon as you can safely do so. You are not actively hunting the bad guy. A CCW is supposed to be to defend YOU, not to go looking for trouble.........

    In a campus shooting scenario, the shooter is looking to kill a bunch of unarmed people. You carry so you won't be one. When he walks into your classroom with a gun in hand and starts shooting, KILL HIM. It beats hiding under a desk, waiting for a bullet. Then put the gun up and resume fleeing with the rest of the sheep.
     
  11. W.E.G.

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    I hitted it.
     
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    Good guys are winning!

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  13. Robert Hairless

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    It might be a good idea if police officers were trained not to shoot people who aren't wearing uniforms. Most people who aren't police officers don't wear uniforms, so if police officers get in the habit of shooting everyone who isn't wearing one there won't be anyone left to pay their salaries except U.S. Postal Service employees, FedEx and UPS drivers, and one guy in the Village People who probably is old enough to be collecting his retirement right now.

    On the other hand if police officers are going to shoot anybody with a weapon who isn't wearing a uniform, there should be lots of continuing vacancies for plainclothes detectives and narcs. Then there shouldn't be an unemployment problem.

    But then again if police officers must shoot anybody with a weapon who isn't wearing a uniform, it will be very dangerous to have a CWP and actually need to use it to defend your life. If the bad guy doesn't kill you the cops will. That's sort of not good, I think, and wasteful of the time and money it takes to get a Concealed Weapons Permit. It would be much more economical to just let the bad guy kill you. That way you could use the money you save to go out for a nice dinner and maybe buy some good sneakers, although they can be expensive.

    On reflection, though, when disarmed people in colleges are attacked by a mass murderer today they have no option except to let the bad guy kill them or send a text message saying something like "Hey, there's a bad guy killing us all." If they were allowed the means to defend their lives, they might be able to prevent the bad guy from killing them and only have to worry about being killed by cops who are too bone stupid, incompetent, callous, and badly trained to not have worked out ways avoid killing the innocent people they should be protecting.

    Perhaps the students who have Concealed Weapons Permits should wear cop uniforms, except that they might be embarrassed to dress like people who aren't smart enough to do their job. Maybe they could wear fake moustaches and big floppy shoes though.
     
  14. Cuda

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    "So should properly licensed students be allowed to carry concealed weapons to class"

    How about, should students be allowed to carry weapons to class?

    No one should be required to obtain a license for self protection.

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