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Campus cops get ARs - in California!

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Teachu2, Jan 24, 2013.

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  1. Teachu2

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    So....

    Arming themselves is a great idea, especially if the tax payers get gored in doing it, but arming anyone else must be outlawed...

    Kind of funny that the answer really is more guns.
     
  3. SoCalNoMore

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    I had the unfortunate opportunity to work a stint out of the Fontana Sheriff's station, they need these without a doubt. So odd that Feinstein is wanting to ban them and make the supply dry up when schools are getting them. And with all of the "no we dont need armed guards in our schools" rhetoric.
     
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    Cops can use those weapons to protect your kids while at school, but when they get home, they are SOL. They want to stop school shootings, they couldn't care less about home invasion shootings. They don't care if kids die, they just don't want it happening on the states time and dime.
     
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    At least they got pre-craze pricing.
     
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    I love the last quote.

    "In my world, everything should be peaceful, we shouldn't hate each other," said the mother of five. "However, that's not the world we're living in. We're living in a violent world, crazies are out there constantly. ... We need to be prepared."


    Word.
     
  7. Shadow 7D

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    Yep, for $25 they are carrying FULL AUTO scary guns...
    wonder if they know how to use them.
     
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    I hope it comes with a 10 round magazine."The weapons, which cost $1,000 each, are high-powered weapons that are accurate at longer range

    "The weapons, which cost $1,000 each, are high-powered weapons that are accurate at longer range" - How are they labeled "high powered" but I can't hunt with a 223?
     
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    Yeah, high-powered is a misnomer. Accurate at longer ranges is a good thing, however.
     
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    They aren't full auto. They are your standard semi-auto Colt 6940s.

    As far as knowing how to use them, I don't know if they are or not, but there is no reason in the world they shouldn't get training in proper tactics. Tactical training is really is not that expensive (no more than say good enterprise computer training) and AR-15s are not difficult to shoot properly.
     
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    Denial is the first delusion to becoming a victim.

    It never ceases to amaze me, that while I understand the maternal instinct, and the desire to have peace, glitter, and unicorns at every street corner, that utter denial of the brutal world out there is just too scary to acknowledge. A fatal mistake in far too many instances.

    Yes, we need to do better...much better, and the proposed fixes have been continually shot-down (except in a few cases I may count on 1 finger), or will increase the violence by disarmament of law-abiding citizens, many, who have already, or will risk their lives to save those who would support to neuter us.
     
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    Well at least their chief has good taste in guns and he got them Colts and not some crappy brand.

    I think they should be regulated to 10 rds like the rest of California's citizens though.
     
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    bout time the district is getting smart.usually campus cops only carry sidearms,maybe shotguns in the cars.some are just security guards,not even certified cops,usually with revolvers,depending on the attitude of administration.
     
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    Will these have "California compliant" stocks with no pistol grips, and non-collapsing buttstocks? I assume law enforcement has no need to "spray fire from the hip"... so... why else would they need pistol grips? Also, as there is no legitimate law enforcement application of a bayonet lug, I am going to assume those were sheared off as well?

    Don't get me wrong... I fully support properly equipped law enforcement. Just seems that any ergonomic feature that makes them better shooters is equally valid for civilians.
     
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    Pistol grips and collapsible stocks are legal in CA with a bullet button. LE agencies are exempt from the bullet button requirement.
     
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    Most campus cops in California carry Glock 40s.
     
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    There is no legal requirement for a bullet button - the purpose of the button is to make the rifle non-magazine fed in the eyes of the law, thus removing it from the assault weapon ban's consideration entirely.

    What CA law enforcement is exempt from is the entire ban, not just a minor requirement of it. This leaves the same question: what legitimate reason to police have to own these weapons that is not equally applicable to civilians?

    Not to split hairs - just highlighting what I hope is a useful argument. I have no doubt I am preaching to the converted in your case. And you are of course correct that these will be standard configuration weapons. My question was largely facetious.
     
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    I can't imagine why police officers would NEED ar15s if they're only good for killing large numbers of people as quickly as possible.
     
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    Coming from a fellow gun owner, I really hope that is sarcasm.
     
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    I'm pretty sure it was sarcasm, DMK. It's essentially the argument we're all making regarding police exemptions - we fight the same bad guys, and are held to much the same legal standards regarding when lethal force is justified in defense. The only difference is we're not actively seeking out the bad guys.

    What I loved was the host who said there is no legal requirement for citizens to use their guns responsibly. Somehow insinuating that cops should have guns because they're required not to shoot innocents, but civilians are not bound by that law, so we should get rid of guns for civilians so that we can't shoot each other. That guy made no sense at all.

    Oh I'm sorry that wasn't the host. That was the mayor of some city (I believe in California).
     
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    Ah, too bad, for MUCH less they could have got a DRMO rifle
     
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    Lol. DMK, let me rephrase: IF ar15s really were good for nothing but mass killing, what valid reason could cops have for keeping them? The rifle either has legitimate legal defensive uses or it doesn't. Which is it, Fsteiners?
     
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    Funny how they didn't refer to them as "assault rifles" in this article.
     
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    Not allowed for the people...THEN...Not allowed for the police!!!
     
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    What will the children think of seeing police carrying rifles at school!
     
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