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Can a .452 Diameter Round be used in a .45 ACP case?

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by asdpoiu, Nov 18, 2008.

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  1. asdpoiu

    asdpoiu Member

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    I suspect the answer is no since the case has a diameter of .451, but I like to ask stupid questions.

    I ask because I have been using a 230 grain round for bowling pins, which poops out when the pins get full of lead and wont carry the pin off the table. I would like to try a heavier round but I think the diameters are wrong. I use a S&W 625 for pins.

    Also curious if anyone has opinions on hollow points vs lead rounds for pins. Do the hollow points actually expand in a bowling pin?

    Thanks.
     
  2. NVMM

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    Yes.
    Typically .451 is jacked and .452 is lead.
     
  3. asdpoiu

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    So yes because the lead round is malleable and can be made to fit? What if I wanted to use a jacketed round, then no?

    Thanks
     
  4. rcmodel

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    No.
    They do grab hold and knock them off the table better then a RN glancing off though.

    Since you are shooting a revolver & feeding isn't an issue, I would try .452", 250 or 255 grain lead SWC bullets designed for the .45 Colt.
    It will take a bowling pin along for the ride, I betcha!

    Speer also makes a .451", 260 grain JHP that should work well.

    rcmodel
     
  5. Walkalong

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    The Ranier 250 Gr plated bullet hits em pretty hard. Nice big flat on the front. I have shot lots of them in autos over the years. They should work great in a revolver.
     
  6. JackOfAllTradesMasterAtNone

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    Actually, for that revolver, look for a 250gn truncated cone bullet, Lead in .452" or jacketed in .451". Slams'm hard!

    I could send you a few lead ones to test if you'd like.

    -Steve
     
  7. Walkalong

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    That Ranier 250 Gr bullet is a truncated design with a wide flat.

    Magnus used to make a "Bowling Pin" bullet for just that. They may still. It had a huge Meplat and was slightly rounded on the sides. I do not see it on their website. Maybe it was someone else.

    This one is not it, but it would work.

    [​IMG]


    I used to shoot these when I could not get the BP bullet anymore. I still have 750 loaded up and stored in a 30 cal ammo can. Gave the other 750 to my nephew.

    [​IMG]
     
  8. neal7250

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    I have loaded the rebated boat tail bullets from this company www.customprojectile.com with amazing results. These bullets are 452". I use these bullets in my XD, and both of my 1911s
     
  9. Linear Thinker

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    Since your question was specific to a S&W 625, the answer is yes. I use .452 as-cast bullets in my S&W 25 with either Auto-rim cases or 45ACP with moon clips. They chamber fine.

    When loading for autos, the .452 bullets may make chambering difficult. I just finished fixing a batch of .452 45ACP reloads for a friend, they would occasionally cause FTCs in his Gold Cup. One pass with Lee FCD, and the issue went away.

    I would only use .451 bullets in autos, to assure reliability.
    LT
     
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  10. Walkalong

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    I have shot thousands of .452 lead bullets in various shapes through 1911's over the years with no issues, and all this before the Lee Carbide Crimp Die was invented. :cool:
     
  11. THe Dove

    THe Dove BOOMER SOONER!!!

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    I cast .452 lead boolits and shoot them in a P220 Sig. I had problems with feeding but the Lee FCD took care of 99% of my problem.

    The Dove
     
  12. JackOfAllTradesMasterAtNone

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    .452" lead bullets though a 1911? YOU BET!

    Almost all Bullseye shooters shoot .452" diameter lead bullets. Target SWC's such as the Hensley and Gibbs profiles. -Not for pins, but that diameter is used in tighter spec match grade barrels every day without issue.

    -Steve
     
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    I have shot .452 lead bullets in various shapes through 1911's over the years. My current .45 ACP IPSC load uses .452 Lead RNFP for .45 colt.
     
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