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Can a glock (model 22) fire by releasing locked-back slide?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by nedesto, Dec 17, 2008.

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  1. nedesto

    nedesto Member

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    Specifically what i mean is:

    1) slide is locked back
    2) loaded magazine inserted
    3) depress trigger with finger (yes, i know this is a bad thing)
    4) release the slide (while trigger still depressed)

    will this chamber AND fire a round in a properly functioning glock model 22?

    (also, would it matter for step 4 whether you release the slide with the
    slide release lever or release the slide by pulling back on the slide to disengage the slide stop?)

    Thanks
     
  2. geronimo509

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    go to the range and try it and let me know.. also why would you want to do that?? accuracy would be bad. and it wouldnt make the first shot too much faster
     
  3. Rangegod

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    No it will not due to the disconnector. However, it would not be considered an act of safe gun handling by most. Some owners of highly tuned 1911's do load in this manor to limit damage to the hammer and sear interfacing surfaces.

    JAC
     
  4. The Lone Haranguer

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    I'll go out and try it ... NOT!!! :neener:
     
  5. Hk Dan

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    No, it will not fire if the trigger is held to the rear when you release the slide. It would make no difference if you slingshot the slide or use the slide release lever. If you inadvertantly reset the trigger in this process, it's going to fire when the trigger is pressed to the rear, however.

    This is essentially what you're doing when you fire controlled pairs (by holding the trigger to the rear, releasing it to reset, and firing from there). The only difference is that the slide is locked back in your example.

    I can't think of a good reason to release the slide with your finger on the trigger (See Jeff Cooper's 4 laws of gun safety), but the gun should not fire if you do.
    Dan
     
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  6. Revolver Ocelot

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    some how I could see this happen if you were inovlved in a situation where you needed to defend yourself and ended up needing to reload (supposing it is possible). I really don't think anyone would do it on purpose though... :scrutiny:
     
  7. C-grunt

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    Well the Glock will cycle faster than you can release the trigger during normal operations so Im pretty sure it wont. You have to release the trigger back out until it resets before it will fire again.
     
  8. rcmodel

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    On any Glock (except the full-auto Model 18) the striker is only completely cocked by pulling the trigger through a full stroke.
    It is only partially cocked at rest when loaded, and would not have enough power to fire a round. (even if the firing pin lock somehow failed)

    Even if the disconnector somehow failed with the trigger held back, the striker would not be cocked fully & released until you let the trigger go foreward enough to reset and cock the striker again.

    Anyway, proper gun-handling demands you keep your finger off of the trigger during reloads, loads, etc.

    I can't think of any make or model semi-auto firearm in proper working condition that would fire if the trigger were held back while loading it.

    Some overly simple open-bolt sub-machineguns would however.

    rcmodel
     
  9. possum

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    my question to you is, why in the world would you want to do that anyway?
    no it will not fire the round if you did that, but still that is no reason for you to do it, and it makes absolutly no sense as to why you would do that.
    btw welcome to thr.
     
  10. IdahoLT1

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    sounds like you would have a full auto glock if it could do that.
     
  11. MT GUNNY

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    +1 on full auto thing.
    You don't have to go to the range to find out. Clear pistol, hold trigger, work the slide back then Forward then release trigger , then pull trigger again if you hear the pin fly forward then NO it wont fire. If you don't hear the pin fly forward then you got your self a Fully Auto Pistol.
     
  12. mljdeckard

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    Do you know someone who claims it happened to them?
     
  13. hostilecrab

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    No. You would just end up loading a round in the chamber.
     
  14. mgkdrgn

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    Only if you have a "full auto" Glock.
     
  15. rcmodel

    rcmodel Member in memoriam

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    Even a full-auto Glock would not fire the first shot until you released the trigger and allowed the striker to trigger cock the first shot.

    rcmodel
     
  16. speedydave

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    I just tried it in my G30 SF, unloaded of course, and no the striker does not snap as it normally would. Once I release the trigger it resets and is ready to go, and will release the striker with a normal trigger pull.

    I think it is the disconnect as mentioned above.
     
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