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Can a Resident Alien Purchase a Firearm?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by spelsh, Nov 22, 2006.

  1. spelsh

    spelsh Member

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    as stated in the post title, or do you have to be a citizen?
     
  2. The_Shootist

    The_Shootist Senior Member

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    Yup!

    When I was a Canadian citizen with my green card I bought several before I later got my US citizenship. No problem.

    HOWEVER - I think it may be at the discretion of the local authorities. I was picking up my first handgun in Texas City and the gunshop ower was in a testy mood.

    It seems a Doctor at the University of Texas Medical Branch had been denied a handgun purchase as he was a Saudi national. He had HIS greencard and everything, but had been refused. This was SEVERAL years before 9/11.

    Anybody wanna guess what it might be like now? :evil:
     
  3. armedpolak

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    yes, you can.
    you need to provide your alien number, show green card, state issued document, like DL to verify your residency. also, you need to reside in the state for 90 days (can't leave for even a second), and need to supply bills etc, to show your address and time of residency.

    no discretion.
     
  4. MikeH

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    Some states may require non-citizens to jump through additional hoops. For example, in Washington a non-citizen has to obtain an Alien Firearms License.

    It is still best to check with local authorities before proceeding.
     
  5. Keith Wheeler

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    Resident aliens may purchase title I firearms, but title II is out. Also some states (like Arkansas) require you be a citizen to get a concealed carry permit.
     
  6. Sean Dempsey

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    Should illegial aliens be able to purchase firearms as well?
     
  7. Ed Ames

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    I am a LEGAL alien and have purchased firearms you just have to show your "green card" drivers license and utility bills showing 90 days residency in the state you live in. The utility bills are a new thing since 9-11 I didn't have to show them before.
     
  9. Hoppy590

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    well, seems the resounding answer is yes!
    check with local authoritys, talk to the guy in the gunshop in advance so he is informed as to whats going on. and welcome to america if your a new alien, and welcome to the 2nd A either way!
     
  10. Limeyfellow

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    In North Carolina we just have to fill in another federal form with the A number on and a few other things to say we are legal and allowed to buy them. Its fairly easy to do.
     
  11. MD_Willington

    MD_Willington Senior Member

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    One more time:

    You betcha :cool:

    I have my AFL & my CPL... even with the CPL I still have a wait of 2 days on pistols instead of the standard 5 (IIRC)...

    Reminds me, time to get the paperwork together for 2007... my AFL is up at the end of the year..

    !Jump!

    Yes sir, how high?

    --> Should have moved to Idaho ;)
     
  12. MatthewVanitas

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    I'm unclear on one thing: do Student Visas count, or do they have to be a permanent Resident Alien?

    We get this question a lot from Indians and Brits at the UT campus range, and I'm not quite sure what to tell them.

    -MV
     
  13. Limeyfellow

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    No they can't, Nor can foreign investors, those on a tourist visa (though they can apply for a temporary permit that allows you to rent a firearm or bring your own in for hunting and competitions etc), business or missionary work. They are not classed as permanent residents and have to leave after their student visa runs out so don't qualify.
     
  14. real_name

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    Here in TN legal resident aliens (previously known as green card holders) can both purchase guns and obtain carry permits.
    My wife actually drafted the wording for the latter and lobbied it into law. The legislature here were previously under the misguided assumption that even though resident aliens were permitted to pay the same taxes as citizens they weren't due the right to protect themselves and practice personal responsibility.
     
  15. MatthewVanitas

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    Okay, that clarifies the student thing.

    On the issue of non-citizens in general, it is worth reiterating:

    At least in concept, Constitutional rights are general human rights which should, ideally, be applied to the entire world.

    -MV
     
  16. MikeH

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    Wrong. There's no difference. The BATF requires that a form 1 or form 4 transfer to a non-licensee be accompanied with a Certificate of Compliance form. 18 USC 922(g)(5) prohibits illegal and non-resident aliens from possessing both title I and title II firearms (with a few exceptions), but there's nothing that prevents a resident alien from possessing a title II firearm as long as they comply with all other applicable laws just like anyone else.
     

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