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Can anyone identify this writing.

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by DeerSlayer7600, Aug 30, 2008.

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  1. DeerSlayer7600

    DeerSlayer7600 Member

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    Just bought this tin of ammo an I was wondering if anyone could tell me what is written next to the 7.62. Thanks.

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  2. Zedo

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    It's Russian. The photo is blurred or out of focus -- hard to tell which. Also, the photo file is unnecessarily large. There's no reason to post large photo files online. They don't result in perceptably greater "resolution" on a standard computer monitor.

    So, instead of handing you the fish, we can teach you how to fish . . .

    Google "Russian alphabet." "Cyrillic alphabet" will work too.

    Match up the letters you see with the alphabet listed -- cut/paste. Then use Google "language tools."

    It's gonna get complicated. Think of it as a "puzzle." I don't speak/read Ruskie, but I can tell you this contains no vowels. It's probably an acronym. That's going to make finding a translation a bit more complicated.

    OK . . . now I'm gonna get more coffee, sit back and see what happens. :D
     
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    To me it looks like Hebrew.
     
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    Looks like Cyrillic - DGL

    Maybe a case of heavy ball 7.62x54R?
     
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    It's Cyrillic. Trust me on this. Linguistics is my field.
     
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    Its Cyrillic and probably Russian in origin and means OGP or DGP.
     
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    I know it is 7.62x54, thats why i bought it. I just wondered if that was the bullet weight. the bullets have yellow tips.
     
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    I see a 10 and a 55 on the headstamp. The guy at the store said it was packaged in 1953 i think.
     
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    x54Russian?

    I really don't know, all I DO know is it's some form of Cyrillic writing. I think. :(
     
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    Looks like it. I was hoping it was 147gr, but i guess 180gr cant be too bad in an M44.
     
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    You could just pull a bullet and weigh it?
     
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    According to the reference I have, the "10" indicates a manufacturer of; Arsenal, Kazanlak (previously named Durjava Voenna Fabrika), Bulgaria, when found on ammunition made after 1946.

    OR it also could be Russian State Arsenal, location unknown. Listed here to avoid confusion with the previously mentioned Bulgarian factory using the same code. Found on ammunition made 1946 and earlier. Factory Ceased operations in 1946.

    The "55" indicates year of manufacture - which would pretty much rule out the Russian State Arsenal.

    Maybe not exactly what you were looking for but it may get you closer.

    Rob
     
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    So what I'm finding is that it is most likely 180gr bullets. Anyone shot this in an M44?
     
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    That my friend is Bulgarian heavy ball. I believe it is 182. grain. I have the same stuff, bought it off of Aimsurplus.
     
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    It's Bulgarian Cyrillic, from Arsenal 10 at Kazanlak; the yellow tips are the Combloc identifier for "heavy ball" (machine-gun ammo, but it will work fine in rifles).
     
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    It's russian. equivalent latin letters would be DGL. My guess would be those letters stand for draganuv long, or something like that.

    Or it could be the russian equivalent of what we know as the "PSL rifle"

    Who knows.
     
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    I've fired a lot of the Bulgy heavy ball from an M44. My experience has been that it isn't as accurate as light ball, but it is more consistent. I.E., you may get 4in groups, but they will always be in that 4in. You won't get 2in groups for 4 rounds with the last one going exploring in the weeds, like the light ball seems to throw out occasionally.
    The recoil is going to be brisk, though.
     
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    If you purchased it and don't mind opening the packaging, you could always pull the bullet on a sample cartridge to get the projectile weight. Opening the container would also give you access to the headstamp detail.
     
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    According to the Department of Defence, the Cyrillic "DGL" next to "7.62" stands for "heavy lead-core bullet in a brass case".
     
  23. Zedo

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    Kewl ! ! !

    I knew it would be some sort of acronym and that you'd need some sort of ammo reference to get at it.

    182 gr. in 7.62 X 54R is good stuff. Right in there with 30-06 Spfd.
     
  24. DeerSlayer7600

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    Thanks to everyone for your help. I will be going to the range shortly to try it out, i will report back.
     
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    So, I fired 5 shots at 75yds, not even on paper. Moved to 25yds, 3-4 inches left, height is fine, this was with the bayonet folded to the side. I was told by a friend after i got home to shoot with the bayo extended so i guess i will try that next time.
     
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