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Can I own this?

Discussion in 'Legal' started by DontBurnMyFlag, Jan 14, 2006.

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  1. DontBurnMyFlag

    DontBurnMyFlag Member

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    Such a sad question to have to ask. However, in NJ, can I own a folding or collapsible stock on my yugo sks? I heard that I am allowed a certain number of evil features. However, Im not sure if that applies to the stock or not. I could not find any information online so if someone could please clear this up, it would be appreciated. Thank you.
     
  2. geekWithA.45

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    Max of 2 Evil features on a semi auto, must also check list of "banned by name" arms.

    Evil features, IIRC:

    Folding/collapsing Stock
    Pistol Grip
    Flash Hider
    Bayo Lug (IIRC, the permanently attached fold out SKS bayo doesn't count)
    Grenade launcher (careful w/ the SKS on this!)
    Detacheable magazine (max of 15 rnds, in any event)
    and uh.....heat shield?


    I'm not a lawyer, and I'm getting rusty. YMMV.
     
  3. joab

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    I just went through this on another thread

    changing out the stock requires you to replace a minimum of eight parts with USA made parts
    Look at what I bubba-ed
     
  4. nfl1990

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    Yeah, that'll really stop those drive by bayonetings.
     
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    http://lis.njleg.state.nj.us/cgi-bin/om_isapi.dll?clientID=113179&Depth=2&TD=WRAP&advquery=assault%20firearms&depth=4&expandheadings=on&headingswithhits=on&hitsperheading=on&infobase=statutes.nfo&rank=&record={179F}&softpage=Doc_Frame_PG42&wordsaroundhits=2&x=0&y=0&zz=
    I guess it depends on whether your SKS has a detachable mag or not. (This is the third time I've had to edit this because the statute is so incomprehensible. :rolleyes: )

    - NF
     
  6. joab

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    It's not a matter of being an assault weapon
    Changing out the stock changes the guns C&R status that it was imported under

    An assault weapon restriction would be regional the the C&R importation status is federal
    http://www.tapco.com/page.asp?id=73
     
  7. DontBurnMyFlag

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    wow, what a confusing law. But I live in NJ and Im used to confusing laws that we can do without. So anyway, in order for me to have the Tapco collapsible stock on my Yugo sks I would need to remove the following.

    bayonet and lug
    and
    grenade launcher

    is that correct? will I have to change some internal parts too?

    Thanks for all the information by the way too.
     
  8. RavenVT100

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    Actually, you're going about this a little bit wrong, let me explain.

    What's stopping you from attaching the stock isn't NJ law, it's federal law that states that imports other than C&R have to have a certain number of US-made parts to be legal. By removing the Yugo's parts, you'll be taking it out of the C&R category and it will have to be legal as far as import regs go.

    The NJ AWB does not apply to rifles WITHOUT detachable mags. Otherwise your SKS would be an assault weapon, since it already has a bayonet attachment and a grenade launcher, both of which are "evil features."
     
  9. joab

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    The easiest thing to do is change the magazine to a USA made replacement mag, change the op rod and the piston to USA parts. And add a American made muzzle break.



    Or remove the Bayo lug and cut off the barrel below the launcher
     
  10. DontBurnMyFlag

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    I already have an american made gas piston. I also remember seeing a way to remove the grenade launcher without cutting the barrel. **EDIT** correction, I was talking about the grenade launcher sights, my mistake

    Raven VT 100. I know that this is federal law, I was just comparing it to confusing NJ laws. Thanks for the clarification though.

    Ok, So since I have an american gas piston I have to:

    get a american operation rod
    get a USA magazine
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    remove the bayonet (Do i have to cut off the lug or does it come off with the bayonet?)

    The Tapco collapsible stock contains 3 compliance parts (pistol grip, stock and handguard) FYI

    Will all that cut it?
     
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    Yes but then you have a threaded barrel
     
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    If you relace those parts with US compliance parts you don't have to remove the bayonet lug.
    The lug would need to be removed to eliminate the evil feature if that was necessary
     
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    whats wrong with a threaded barrel? Does that mean the threads are exposed on the outside of the barrel now?

    Thanks for all the info.
     
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    Yes and it means that they are capable of accepting silencers or other muzzle attachments that may be banned.

    California bans them and requires the barrel to be cut I don't know about NJ, but I would think that a threaded barrel would be illegal. A brake would cost about $20and would make the gun look better, check on the legality though
    The op rod is about $10 and an American made non detachable mag is about $15.
    The piston is the most expensive part
    The parts are all pretty much drop in
     
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    I already have the gas piston from TAPCO.

    In my local gun store they have the HK Mk23 with a threaded barrel. AFAIK, threaded barrels are legal in NJ, but I will look into that later.

    To attach a muzzle break, what would I have to do?
     
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    I honestly don't know about the legalities of threaded barrels there, but it's a good guess that if a reputable shop is selling one then it's OK

    Let me dig up the article on removing the launcher

    It's basically driving out the pin and unscrewing it, just not that easy sometimes
     
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    wow. thanks for all of that. ill think about chaning the sks and getting some stuff done. it will be a project lol. thanks.
     
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    also, I dont really care about damaging the grenade launcher. so driving the pin out and unscrewing it is another way to do it? i could give it a go if i had more info on how. but once again, youve been alot of help.
     
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    Just replace the little homemade clamp with a pipe wrench.

    apparently heating up the launcher helps in taking it off.

    I'm going to be doing it either tomorro or next weekend so I'll let you know if I screw it up.

    Also removing the grenade sights is not as hard as they make it out to be.

    I just used a drill to ream out the rivet on one side and then used pliers to bend the sight just enough to lift it off. Took about 5 minutes.
     
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