Can the 1911 experts PLEASE explain this?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by ontarget, Nov 3, 2021.

  1. trackskippy

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    The thumb safeties seem to be kind of all over the place sometimes. Ive had them both almost floppy loose on one extreme, and almost needing two hands to get them off on the other. More often than not, it was because the detent on the safety was either too deep, or not deep enough. Pretty easily solved either way, with either a rattail jewelers file to relieve the track the plunger follows a bit, or a Dremel with a ball on it to make the detent a tad deeper.

    Not sure how common it is, but over the years, Ive owned around 40 1911's, and only ever had one with a loose plunger tube. And even then, it was just a little loose, and didnt affect the safety or slide stop.
     
  2. ontarget

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    That is what I guess happened.
    I did roll to my right side several times and was in a very tight spot. The holster in question is not soft or floppy but if leaned on while the gun was slightly lifted could engage the trigger. This would explain the strike to the primer, with this series 80, if my skin or lowest rib, was pressing the GS as I was contorting my body around.
    I'm sure my coat slowed the hammer enough to save my leg.
     
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  3. danez71

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    I appreciate the reply.

    Thank you for sharing and really trying to figure out what happened rather than only considering the gun being the issue.

    I need to scrutinize my holsters.
     
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  4. Skylerbone

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    On Colts it was a recurring theme for a long time with both examples I purchased in the 2000s arriving loose. I recall Tuner suggesting replacement for every new Colt. Also had a Smith that took some damage so I took the opportunity to swap it and get rid of the Tu-Tone look.
     
  5. ontarget

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    That's where I'm at with this. I'm 99% sure it was a perfect storm of events, ending with me leaning on the gun and engaging the trigger.
    I ordered a new Kydex holster for it and that already came in. I'm still going to take it to a Smith for inspection before I carry it again.
     
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  6. ontarget

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    I totally agree. My first thought was "Damn I'm never going to carry this POS again!"
    But after the shock of finding that struck primer in my chamber wore off, I came to my senses and remembered that people have been carrying 1911s for 110 years. Need to figure it out and carry on.
     
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  7. Master Blaster

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    A good holster from a good maker designed for the 1911 would have completely avoided this incident. If you insist on carrying it while you are working in a restricted space and wrestling equipment then the holster needs a good retention strap or locking mechanism.

    If it had been a glock the drop safety (trigger dingus) would not have saved you, if the trigger was pulled, the glock would have fired

    Glad you were not hurt.
     
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  8. Old_Grouch

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    Those events happening in concert bring to mind the phrase "The Perfect Storm". Although this, fortunately, ended more positively than the movie.
     
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    This thread makes me miss 1911Tuner.

    I don’t know what happens to him but I hope he is well and happy somewhere.
     
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  10. Skylerbone

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    Tuner has passed unfortunately
     
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    I really hate to hear that. I probably learned more from his posts than everyone else combined, he just had a way of explaining things in a way I could understand.

    he could have easily written an excellent book on the mechanics of a 1911 if he had wanted to.

    anyway, he will be missed by me, may his soul be resting in peace.

    sorry for the tread drift.
     
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  12. SwampWolf

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    If loose plunger tubes on 1911 pistols are a concern, the best way of never having one is to buy a Ruger. As well, of course, for other good reasons.
     
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  13. Bazoo

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    I wear my 1911 doing things like changing my oil or working on a mower, or whatever. Never would have thought about the holster tripping the trigger while my fat roll disengaged the grip safety while I accidentally had taken my thumb safety off. Gives you a new perspective.
     
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  14. v8stang289

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    I hate to hear it as well. He talked me through fixing a couple 1911 issues several years ago.
    1911Tuner and rcmodel have probably taught me more than everyone else up here.
     
  15. Jack Ryan

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    Have you got the grip safety pinned down?
     
  16. ontarget

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    No way.
     
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