Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Jimbo80, Jun 12, 2021.
The only place where it does bother me is in conversations about reloading, where most peoples usage of 'bullets' for cartridges can cause confusion or lack of understanding.
You must've said "clip" in a crowd of "magazine" folks.
Or are these bullets?
The cartridge goes into the breech
As you take care with your apparel
Take equal care with your speech
I gather you're unfortunate enough to not own any clip-fed weapons, or regularly engage in literate discussion with those who know the difference
The distinction matters, especially in conversation regarding arms history, development, and design.
Tires and wheels, bolts and screws, explosives and propellants, extractors and ejectors. . . we have different words because the difference matters. If you wish to conflate the terms in your conversation, we'll probably figure out what you meant from the context, and we'll think you were careless to not use the right term.
I am unlikely to correct someone unless there is some mutual benefit in doing so. I am likely to make my own appraisal of the language mangler's experience and perspicacity.
Edited to try to get back in a gun-related direction. We prize accuracy and precision in our shooting. Why not make the effort to be clear and concise in our communication as well?
Soon, our language precision will devolve to the point that discussing the difference between a magazine and clip will seem like a high level intellectual discussion, and the word “thingie” will mean anything from an AR15, to an Abrams tank, to a baby spoon.
Edited in a belayted attempt to check for speling...
That is a great point. It goes much further than the debate we have here regarding feeding systems on our favorite guns. It's also interesting that you specifically picked a time frame of about 15 years ago. I noticed about that time that news media people began replacing the word "guerilla" with the word "militant." To steer this back toward firearms, if anyone has taken the time to look at the recent spate of gun control bills, they are very specific in their language.
My big one is caliber and cartridge. They can be 2 very different things. I handload cartridges... not calibers.
Am I being a reloading Nazi? Well... maybe so.
After the member stops screaming and turns a toasty dark color, we can all go home knowing we fixed one of the worlds greatest problems. ---- OR ! we could just chill out and recognize there may be folks here that are not as astute at firearm terminology, English spelling , or perfect English grammar, and simply enjoy the knowledge and general input these good folks bring. That usually doesn't take rocket scientists to figure out if you bother to read the full postings. (just my opinion - I think that pretty much puts me in agreement to the OP))
Our society is getting dumber and lazier by the day, as others have said- words have specific meanings. There's no reason to intentionally use the incorrect term if you know the difference , folks that don't know the difference are just using the term the have heard. We should all strive to be our best, speak as well as we can and communicate as clearly as we're capable of.
Just an opinion of course
Its time to gain followers. People need to stop lying, embrace diversity, bury their prejudice, and stop being pedantic. Cultures die because members become unwilling to adapt. People need to get over it. Thank you OP for getting over it (well, you were probably never "on in", but thanks anyway)
your right there... I recently made 'bullets'... "no, you made cartridges!....-No, I fired up my smelter and made bullets"
Or do you look Past it ?
Not to mention thinner skinned.
Look, if correcting other firearm enthusiasts on their vocabulary miscues is necessary, so be it.
If someone asks me, I'll do my best to steer them toward appropriate terminology. I don't have the time or energy to devote to correcting "clip" misused any more than I do "rims" when someone's talking about wheels, or countless other misuses of automotive terminology.
Want a worthwhile cause? Start correcting the anti-gun people for all their mis-uses and misconceptions.
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