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I have looked into it.. and they are quite illegal and would definitely result in some terrible outcome for me... so.. it wil remain a "want" and never a "have." :confused::mad:

Guess a blunt protective instrument will have to do instead.. or my CCW if needed.

"all the sudden the presumed cripple kicked the suspect's ass"
 
The thing I have against my Canemasters cane right now is that I have an injured left hand (ran into the old table saw for fun). If I carry the cane in my right hand my hands are "full" so to speak and I'd rather keep it free, especially if I'm carrying a gun. If not it doesn't really matter but it seems it'd be a PITA not having a free hand.
 
now if only one could mount a 22 barrel in the shaft and manufacture some sort of a trigger mechanism in the handle...

Been done from the 1800's onward, but as lpl pointed out if you didn't register it as an AOW you'd have some serious federal vacation time. Add to that dealing with LE, Prosecution and, potentially, Jury explaining just why you used a cane gun on some miscreant.

No, we deal with the early parts of the force continuum here.
 
Cane guns are a no no. I just want to use my Puji stick training with my cane if needed. The French Method of stick fighting is quite straight forward also.
 
In my opinion a cane gun is only a novelty. If a firearm is needed there are far more potent,accurate, and as easily concealed options out there.

As hso said...
No, we deal with the early parts of the force continuum here.

Far too many of our gun totin brethren rely on only the gun. In this little corner of THR we here understand that the gun is only but one tool in the toolbox.

Believe it or not, not every situation calls for clearing leather.
 
Here are some more that I have made:

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[I have, on many occasions, pondered moving to a new area where nobody knows me and faking a limp and carrying a cane as a regular lifestyle.. I know it is silly, but I am extremely close to doing it... i guess I could fake an injury or something but then I would just have to build on that lie...giving and taking I guess.. I would never be without a weapon to defend myself, but then again, I would look like an easier victim....]
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Don't fake a limp, just carry the thing and make it part of your individual persona. There's nothing illegal about it, and people try to make appologys for it, or an exuse. In fact not faking a limp and walking normal and carrying a stick would send out a clear message to a preditior sizing you up that you're prepared. I notice that when I come out of a metro tunnel at some of the stops in D.C that are known for very aggresive pan handlers, and I have my blackthorn in my hand and I'm not limping, they keep a good distance from me as I pass. I got injured on active duty in 1970, and I was still a young guy at 30 years of age. At that point I didn't have hardly any limp if I was having a good day, but I just took to carrying a blackthorn instead of the old fogy cane they gave me at Walter Reed Army medical Center where I took my rehab. I just worked it in with my stride, and didn't make a big deal out of it.

Once in a very great while some nosy person would ask why I had a cane, and sometimes I'd tell them it was an old injury that acts up sometimes, other times I'd make a joke out of it and tell them theres some mean streets out there. I've never had anybody hastle me about it. These days its even easier, because of the political correctness and the Americans With Disabilities Act, they can't pry or ask without looking like an a$$.

The bottom line is that its your own self conciousness that gives it away. If you just start carrying one, and act like its no big deal, after a while it becomes part of you and your persona. At the most, some people may think you a bit eccentric, so what? In fact, thats okay too, they may joke in private about you carrying a stick around, but they'll also get the idea among themselves that maybe your prepared to defend yourself, and that will get around also.

Some years ago I mentored a young man who's father had run out on the family when he was a young kid. Was growing up with no good father figure. I tought him how to shoot, outdoorsmen stuff, how to act, and he eventually in his mid 20's started carrying a blackthorn walking stick like I did. Here in the peoples republik of Maryland theres no CCW, so no chance of carrying a firearm. Jason got pretty good with the stick drills I tought him, and once in a while somebody would ask why he had a stick. Jason would tell them, "Because I can." and drop it. After a while nobody gave it any thought. Or so we thought, but it was noticed in a good way. Jason noticed that at night, and leaving work the young ladies were anxious to have Jason walk out on the parking lot with them to escort them to thier cars. He even got a few dates out of it. When they found out Jason had a weakness for Dunkin Doughnuts, they would bring him a doughnut and coffee in the morning. One night he asked one young lady why they never asked anyone else working there to walk them to their cars. The pretty young woman told him because nobody else there carried a nice stick like he did, and they thought it was so cool that he did so, and they felt safe with him escorting them to the car at night rather than any of the other office geeks. Geeks- thier words for the other guys.

So Jason ends up having the girls in his office competing for him to walk them to the cars at night. He ends up with free doughnuts and coffee, ended up dating one of the best looking young women in the company, and he never had a bit of a limp or faked an injury.

Sometimes it pays to be an individual. Let people think whatever the heck they want, but your first duty is to protect yourself.
 
Great Thread!

Keep it coming with all the great information and pictures!

I inherited the "bad knees" gene. So I have always had a stick, of some kind.
In my mid thirties, I had double knee surgery and my knees are better than ever.

I had some blackthorn, and in fact one was brought back from Ireland, that was a neat stick!
I have had others of rattan, maple and other woods.
Years pass, life happens...and I don't have all these. So I went to a farm/ranch store and went to cattle canes.

I lost my old cattle canes, due to theft.

I have (hopefully still ) a $ 11 wooden drug store cane somewhere around here, I got moved with it, still it seems to have run off during some house cleaning.
[See, cleaning house is bad]

My current ,"stick" is a old wooden mop handle a tad over 44 inches.

Oh, I like hickory axe handles. I always have, even one cracked , works.

What I do is get one cracked where it fits into the axe head. Sand, clean and dry, and apply 24 hour epoxy. Then I go back with 24 hour epoxy and wrap with braided cord, such as old braided fishing line, or heavier.

It is just a old, cracked hickory axe handle, salvaged and used as a cane.
The other end, where one holds onto it, has that flat spot, at a nice, comfy angle, to fit hands when putting weight on it.

Sometimes these need a bit of sanding to bring out the character and grain of the wood, still these are different, and have character like many canes pictured in this thread.

I use(d) these in rural,semi rural and small town settings...talk about blending in.

Got a kid with a need for a cane, take a look at hickory axe handles, for something different and "cool", "neat" or "cute".
Doing this hickory axe handle bit with a kid, is quality time as well.
 
cool... cool... and I was speaking of the hidden .22 as a novelty, I am more than aware that it is extremely illegal.. Never thought about just carrying one for the hell of it.. interesting... I cannot imagine just starting to do so one random day, but maybe if I have a temporary use for one I can just never put it down...;)

and those are some nice canes geno
 
I use cane every day. I dont limp, and I dont look disabled. I dont need it to walk I need it to keep from falling down, as i have balance issues from a plate in my cervical spine. This injury has also given me a numb left hand. Add in 60 years of living wide open and "Mr Arthuritis" visits often.
All are homemade and it is one of the few hobbies that ties in with my knife and sharpening interests.
I really dont care what people think. When they pay my bill they can have a say.
To combat the full hand thing wrap, a lanyard on the handle.( never drill a hole)
As for being very low on the force spectrum it is almost off the bottom end. Go to the airport and they give me a ride in those neat golf carts.:neener:

As a weapon, with training, it gives distance and reach. It allows you disable quickly and disengage. ( If your situational awareness had been working you would not be there in the first place)

And yes the ladies find it attractive:evil: but Miss Cindi would beat me senseless with her cane if I reacted to some of the pathetic come on lines:cool:
 
While a legally-owned cane gun (maybe something in .410) would be a fun novelty to have, it wouldn't be nearly as useful and versatile (not to mention easy to carry anywhere) as a regular stick.

Thanks for this thread...now I need to do some cane shopping.... :D
 
I think the citizens of the United States are the few that are hung up on thinking one has to be disabled to carry a stick. Like its a stigma of some sorts, where in other countries its a matter of practicality.

I had the good fortune to have seen a good amount of overseas travel in the 10 years I served in the army. Europe, the middle east, southeast asia. Although I could have done without that last one. One of the most interesting places I got to go, was a TDY duty station to Wheelus Air Force base just outside of Tripoli Libia. They needed some construction done, so they borrowed an engineer unit from the army. Of course after hours and on weekends we toured around and saw what we could see. One time I and a few fellow GI's hired a taxi driver to take up around. I had noticed alot of the men always had a short staff like stick with them, no matter if they were in the market square in town or out in the country side. When I asked our driver about the sticks he told us that sometimes there are very bad people about, and a man may have to defend himself against a thief, or a dog. That was 1960's Libia, and I guess they didn't have a gun culture like we do in the U.S. It was their belief a thief gets beaten, not shot. I found that contrary to what most modern Americans would think of the Muslum people, the arabs I got to know in Libia were warm, friendly, God fearing people, who would do anything to avoid killing. They carried a stick, or sometimes a curved blade knife, but I never found one with a gun. By contrast though, they looked at us with the view of us being gun toting cowboys.

One aftrnoon I had the chance to see how they used those short hiking staff looking sticks. We had driven out to the little town of Misurata, east of Tripoli on the coast. It was a beautiful spot with white beaches and the blue sea for swiming. I was in the market buying some food for eating at the beach later when commotion started. A man came running by with a shop owner in pursuit. A thief had snatched something off a table at one of the stalls, and the shop owner was yelling something, probably "stop, thief."

The men who were in the direction the thief on the run was heading, all started poking at his legs with thier sticks as he ran by, and tripped him up good. As he fell, they closed in on him and beat the ever loving daylights out of him. I mean beat him good. It was like a small mob of burnoose wearing arabs swinging these sticks that were like a rib high broomstick, and the poor guy on the ground never had a chance. Apparently in arab culture, there is nothing lower and more despised than a thief. It seemed like a very short while before police whistles were blowing, but by the time the local cops got there, the thief was a bloody pulp, unable to walk away. He was taken away under police guard in an amblulance. Justice had already been done. Every stick wielding man in earshot of the shopkeepers cries for help, had turned on the fleeing criminal and beat him senseless.

Looking back on my time in some parts of the world, I can say I felt safer there, with no gun on me, than I do in some parts of my native land here in America. Particularly in parts of the U.S. where its very easy to get a gun permit. As Todd said, all to often the American gun nut's answer is to pull his gun and shoot someone. I often wonder if the yo-yo's on some of these forums who do the macho chest beating have ever shot somebody at close range, and seen the light in thier eyes go out. Only then, do you feel the sickening enormity of what you've just done hit you. The stick gives you an invaluable second tool to maybe avoid that. The stick in hand can send out a strong message to someone watching you, maybe sizing you up, that if they try you, theres going to be a fight. The punk criminal does not want a fight. If you have a stick, they will give you a look over, and ask themselves "What's he got that stick for?" On some level, they know, and will pass you by. The stick makes them feel a bit hinky about taking you on. Most petty criminals, at least here in Maryland and Washinton D.C., use a knife to try to intimidate the victim to give up his wallet and cell phone. I watch the crime collums and my own son is a country police officer, so I have a good idea of the data on the person to person crimes in my local area. There are acually very few guns used in personal street muggiings when compared to the small kitchen knife, or even just strong arm robbery. A good sturdy stick can get you out of such a situation.

Clint once said "There's nothing like a good piece of hickory."

The same can be said of ash, oak, hornbeam, hawthorn, blackthorn...
 
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I keep a lot of these in pocket carry mode. Several of these shoved down a perp's throat will give him a stomach ache. You can also throw the sticky ones in his hair and he'll flee in embarassment.
 
So Jason ends up having the girls in his office competing for him to walk them to the cars at night. He ends up with free doughnuts and coffee, ended up dating one of the best looking young women in the company, and he never had a bit of a limp or faked an injury.

Sometimes it pays to be an individual. Let people think whatever the heck they want, but your first duty is to protect yourself.

And, the best thing about carrying a cane now when you don't really need it is that you will be used to it by the time you do need it.

And, Carl, you are right about the macho chest-beating some of these forum yo-yo's do. I am growing weary of the threads where someone was itching to pull a gun when the situation didn't warrant it. Makes the rest of us look bad.
 
I'm a younger guy and am not disabled, and nobody really pays it any mind. The only time was a guard stopped me to ask about my stick in Air and Space; not mean, just curious. I just smiled and said "I made this one. I like having a stick on long walks." (You can't really drive anywhere in DC) He was fine with that, even handled it, asked me the type of wood, and where to buy that kind. Everyone else didn't even give it a second look, even when there was a metal detector to walk through.
 
[I'm a younger guy and am not disabled, and nobody really pays it any mind. The only time was a guard stopped me to ask about my stick in Air and Space; not mean, just curious. I just smiled and said "I made this one. I like having a stick on long walks." (You can't really drive anywhere in DC) He was fine with that, even handled it, asked me the type of wood, and where to buy that kind. Everyone else didn't even give it a second look, even when there was a metal detector to walk through.]

You must have got the same guy that I had. A few weeks ago we had some out-of-town company and the boys aged 9 and 11 wanted to see the airplanes at the Air and Space museum. Just one guard was interested in my blackthorn, so I told him The Irish Walk over in Alexandria has some nice ones. He seemed to appreatiate it for practical reasons.
 
I have one of those cattle canes. They are very stout pieces of hickory. I recommend them highly for just that reason. Farm & feed store is where I found it. IIRC, it was like $7.99 or $8.99, something like that. An excellent buy.
I keep it in the truck since one never knows when it will be needed. For walking assistance and possibly a pacifier.

Also, FWIW, if y'all are ever at EPCOT, stop by the China Pavilion in the World Showcase. In the back of the Chinese Dept. store you'll find rattan walking sticks like the ones in my pic for $4.99. They are back where the sword display and books are kept.
 
I walk with a cane most of the time. Its nice to have a cane as my 1'st in hand line of defense since I can't run very well. :scrutiny: I also conceal carry a handgun and my Spyderco.

I have many canes, some I've made and some purchased. 37" is my preference in length for ease of walking.

These are two store-bought canes (hickory I think) that I spiffed up by installing some Colt grip medallions...my brace of Colts. :D

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This is one I made from one inch diameter oak and a chrome plated hame ball from a horse collar. I also have a similar one I made with a brass hame ball. The rifle sling and rawhide thong come in handy for buffet lines and such. :cool:

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