Cap and ball revolver newbie

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  1. woodnbow
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    Ditto for Uberti stock cones.
     
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  2. Jackrabbit1957

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    What I've found is if the tapered part of the nipple about halfway down is .165 to .175 the CCI #11 caps are a perfect fit, snug but don't need to be forced. Being the cheap... er frugal person I am I simply turn the nipples down to those specs and all is good.
     
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  3. Appalachiannative

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    Here she is! Only took a few days since it only had to come from PA to WNC. The great in boxing of my very first BP revolver. Only the third one I've held in my hands, soon to be first I've ever loaded and second I've ever fired. Not sure if the plastic bag slathered in gun oil is something the factory did or the seller because they did advertise it with pics outside box and bag
     

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    Note the piece of wire brush bristle stuck under the screw above the pin. Also I notice the cylinder is right up against the breach. I assume this is good? IMG_20220418_221037745_HDR.jpg IMG_20220418_215553765_MP.jpg
     
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    Depends ,can it go to full cock , or does it bind against it? If the cylinder binds against the forcing cone, the wedge needs to be loosened just a tad.
     
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  6. Appalachiannative

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    Oh it cocks just fine. Locks up tight. While action feels slicker than dish soap. Tell ya right now though the brown plastic grips have got to go! They just feel flimsy and they are too light. Makes it front heavy. Especially for a thin frame guy like me.
     
  7. Jackrabbit1957

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    If you drive the wedge in and the cylinder binds the arbor is short and needs correction. If someone says that's how to adjust the barrel to cylinder gap it's 100% wrong. The wedge is intended to be seated tight as in a light tap with a mallet. It holds everything together under tension, so there is no adjusting needed. You should get the same barrel to cylinder gap each time you assemble the gun.
     
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  8. Appalachiannative

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    I put it in half cock and turned the cylinder through all the chambers a few times. Held the gun up to the light to see if I saw light. So far when one of the chambers is lined up with the breach I see 0 light coming through. Honestly the thinnest feeler gauge I've got is .015 and idk if I could get it through their. Won't try tonight on account of the gauges are down stairs in the garage and I don't wanna wake the dog up. Seems buttery smooth though so I'm pretty happy with it. Thinking about having it sent to you since your so highly recommended to see what you got to say about er. After I ordered it I read some stuff full of pictures with Pietta factory defects and I was worried but she looks fine to me. Although what would I know. Until now all I've ever had was two different cartridge firing double action swing arm revolvers
     
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  9. Blackpowderwarrior

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    She looks good brother. Clean her off and shoot her
     
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  10. Appalachiannative

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    I'm still wondering is the bag full of oil from the factory or what?
     
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    They come that way from the factory. Figure these guns ship from Italy to the USA.
    I take a paper towel or rag and wipe down gun.
     
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  12. Appalachiannative

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    I figured it was a petroleum based product so I will make sure it is completely removed before firing. With my work schedule this will have to wait since I'm doing 9 hrs 6 days a week.
     
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    That oily bag is to prevent rust and such on the way over from Italy in a container ship. Just wipe her down, dry out the chambers and go have some fun. Thanks for thinking about sending it my way for tuning, appreciate the mention.
     
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  14. Zulch

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    Jackrabbit1957. It being a Pietta most likely brand new the arbor should be okay correct??
     
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    Looking good. The CCH makes your gun. I had one of the plain blued steel framed .44 1851's that looked not as good as yours. Sorry I ever sold it, though I used the funds to buy my 1849. Oh well at least it was for another gun. Have fun making clouds of smoke.
     
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  16. Appalachiannative

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    Yea Ive always loved the case hardened stuff looks good on shotgun frames too
     
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    I wonder if the 21 inside the square means 2021
     
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    That's exactly what it means
     
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    One more thing! Anyone know a place to get some good wooden grips? I don't care for the polymer ones it came with at all
     
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  20. Jackrabbit1957

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    Hey Zulch, the arbor should be good, check it anyway, I found one that was way long a while back and a short one on Pietta's. The newer production stuff is 99% ok although one slips through occasionally, guess Guido has a rough day sometimes.
     
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    not sure what I would be looking at. Never owned one of these. Gotta brushup on the terminology
     
  22. Zulch

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    Appalciannative.
    The arbor is the large shaft that the cylinder slides onto. There is much talk about the "short" arbors among the makers of these replica revolvers i.e., Uberti, ASM, Pietta etc. There are many threads on the High Road and other forums about this issue. Jackrabbit1957 and or Mike, 45D of GoonGunworks would be more suited to explain this in detail than I. They both have addressed this issue at length here on THR. Bottom line is, the arbor needs to be the correct length to remedy a revolver beating itself to death over a period of time. Your next question might be, why do the makers of these gun not address the problem with short arbors? That is a rhetorical question unfortunately, but it is a good question. I'm told that Pietta has addressed this issue and that for the past 10 years or so they, generally speaking, have corrected the arbor length.
     
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  23. Zulch

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    I understand Jackrabbit1957. He may indeed have had a bad day. That happens anywhere :rofl:
    Thanks for clarifying that.:thumbup::thumbup:
     
  24. Eyrie G. Dogg

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    To observe the clearance, are you putting it on half-cock, pointing the muzzle up and pressing back on the cylinder?

    The pawl of the hand assembly is pushing the cylinder forward if working correctly, so on half-cock ya need to push the cylinder backwards to see what you've actually got for clearance.
     
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    Any aftermarket grips you get will have to be hand fit. Take off grips may be so far off you can't make them work.
     
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