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Capper For 1858 Remington New Army?

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by Black Duck Charlie, Mar 13, 2012.

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  1. Black Duck Charlie

    Black Duck Charlie Member

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    Hello, y'all. I'm new to the forum, as well as to black powder pistols. I need to find a good capper for my Pietta 1858 Remington New Army. The caps that seem to fit best on this pistol are the Remington #10, but they are too long to fit the straight capper I have; average length of the caps is approximately .180 inch, and the capper is .170 inch deep, so you see there is a definite problem.

    I have heard that opening the nipple recess a bit so the Ted Cash "snail" capper will fit is possible, but I neither have the tools needed to do this, nor have the money to pay someone else to do it.

    Any suggestions for what a poor guy can do?
     
  2. runs.for.beer

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    Just a comment on potential tools . . .

    I thought I would chime-in on the potential tools needed to open up the cylinder to accommodate a snail capper. I used a low-end dremel with good results. If investing in one of these is not an option, is it possible a friend could lend one?

    Best of luck with your pistol.
     
  3. arcticap

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    I simply use the red plastic Thompson Center Star 7 Capper which doesn't require any modifications to use with the Pietta Remington.
    The caps do need to be placed into each of the holding recesses one at a time, but most cappers need to be filled one at a time anyway.
    I already had these before buying an 1858 revolver and found that these worked so now they're put to good use.

    http://www.gamaliel.com/thompsoncenteraccessories/thompson-center-star-7-capper.asp

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  4. Black Duck Charlie

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    Thank you for the help. The local shops -- Gander Mountain and Cabela's included -- do not carry that star capper, so I guess I'll have to order it on-line.

    Agin, thank you for the help.
     
  5. TheRodDoc

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    There surely must be other brands of straight capper's that will hold all sizes of caps yet.

    Mine holds 21 of all brands 10 or 11 caps. Fits on all guns. Even pocket models easily. But I have no idea of what company made them. A very good working capper.
    Remington #10 caps in pictures below.
     

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    Charlie, I have not had any of the all brass cappers work for a remington. You need to get the Ted Cash capper or one similar that has two springs in the end to hold the caps. Cappers with one spring will also work but they work better if you grind off the lip off the single spring on the end and grind away any brass on the tip that doesn't support the cap. The single and double steel spring cappers work but the double brass lips are too thick. I have two of those and they won't fit any of my remingtons. The steel spring models do. The snail capper won't work without hogging out the nipple cutouts.
     
  7. Black Duck Charlie

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    Nice capper, Rod Doc, wonder if that one is still available; I have never seen that style in any store, on-line or otherwise. Hellgate, I've been looking for a double-spring capper for a while, but none of the stores I've been to have any. Granted, I haven't been to every store that might carry them, but I usually wait until I need to make a trip for something else and work in a side-trip to the store.
    I do have a Traditions single-spring capper, but as I said the caps bind up in it. Next trip, I'm going to try that star capper.
     
  8. Hellgate

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    Charlie,
    My favorite capper is the in-line one made by Pedersoli. It holds about 20 caps and has a single spring tip. I have ground away the lip that protrudes from the tip of the spring and I filsed away some of the brass that sticks out beyond the cap. Those two modifications allow it to get into the nipple recess on the Remingtons. I believe Track of the Wolf carries them but you could aslo Google "capper pedersoli"


    From Dixie Gun Works: NA0601 Inline Capper $15.00
    Finally, an inline capper that will accept all #10 and #11 percussion caps and one that has strong outside prongs that hold the caps securely in their correct upright position! The body of the capper is solid brass and it spring loads a capacity of 20 percussion caps. There is a ring on the end for attaching to a pouch or belt.
     
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    BDC, the only "tooling" you need to hog out the cylinder is a nipple wrench, which you should get anyway, and a small flat file about four to 6 inches long. Oh, and some cold blue to touch up the filed areas.

    Stone one edge of the file to make it into a non cutting safety edge. Then use the flat cutting faces to carefully and evenly open up the edges of the nipple recesses and allow the capper of your choice to fit.
     
  10. AJumbo

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    My Tedd Cash snail capper works fine on my Pietta '58..... hmmmm.... Cash also makes an inline that holds 20 caps and will apply those caps to a '58. I picked one up at the NMLRA Winternationals for about $5-6, in blued steel. My other inline cappers are Uncle Mike's and one that came with my Beretta 12 ga. They even cap my pocket Remington.
     
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