Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by Idaho shooter, Sep 22, 2015.
nothing is 100% safe, there are always risks. You decide if it is worth it.
With good bullet at the good size I don't believe that the chain fire come from front (grease or not), that's what I think, I never had a chainfire in almost 50 years shooting cap and balls...
Anyway it is not your real problem: a chain fire is coming mostly when a cap escape from nipple. If your caps stay on their nipples you dont risk a chainfire. Pinching the caps is a good way for Pietta but also for Uberti...
Doing so is a good habit right size or not, always pinch the caps: it make them still in place and dont fall when shooting...
This might be of interest:
The same size caps among different brands almost always vary. People deal with this by pinching caps or filing their nipples to accomadate the dimensions of their supply of caps.
I think another alternative is to buy those expensive percussion caps used by target competitors that have consistant dimensions and filing and shaping your nipples to accomadate them if necessary.
Otherwise in general know that standard percussion cap dimensions are all over the place.
"In test after test, I put caps only on every other chamber with the two adjacent chambers loaded, but uncapped. I then would fire the three rounds. After firing I'd reload and then put caps on the three chambers unfired from the previous round and then shoot them off. I did this over and over again on several occasions now and you know what? It didn't work, I never got a single chain fire no matter how many times I tried it. I would have all these open nipples and never get a chain fire. I also tried capping one chamber at a time and I couldn't get it to chain fire that way either. To me, this is very strong evidence, if not exactly proof positive, that poor fitting caps (or in this case, no caps at all) have nothing to do with chain firing."
Cap selection is by far the least of one's worries when it comes to chain-fires.
Simply place cap on hard flat surface open side up and apply downward force with the socket. A gentle tap may be required. If the re-sized cap resists being removed from the socket gently grab it with pliers and rock it back and forth.
I modified my socket slightly with a pointed stone on a Dremel tool to provide a forcing cone of sorts.
Smokin' idea, Joe.
A 'Tip o' the Cap' to you - thanks! I will give it a try.
caps on Pietta..
I started off having these problems when I first started shooting my revolvers. I started pinching them and 95% of the time that solved it... and then, though I like the socket idea and will try it out tomorrow in fact... I started using needle nose pliers to tighten them up and that works with no failures so far....
However... these are all band aids and I'm all for making sure that squished or not, that one use some sort push stick to keep them as snug as possible on the nipple. Switching out nipples seems to have solved the problem on a couple of my cylinders, but making sure caps are tight on the nipple is still important... in my OPINION.
I see a lot of people have issues with caps flying off Pietta's and it's always dependent on what size tolerance was held at the factory by both Pietta and the percussion cap maker for that given production run.
What I'm saying is that CCI may work great with the Pietta's, but be horrible with Uberti. It's just one of those things.
Oh, and the first thing to do is throw away (well I guess you could keep them for spares) and by some good nipples. Not only do they tend to fit caps better, but they also provide a smoother pathway from the cap to the cylinder.
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