Car Carry
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In MO, such carry is legal only if you have a CCW. Otherwise, a separate locked case is required.
The instructors at the CCW course I just finished often mentioned just putting the firearm in the glove box or console when entering a prohibited carry building. I'm looking into something more secure, such as a Tuffy console or strong box I can mount for ease of use and concealment. I don't want to appear noticeably storing a firearm to the public passing by.
It's not so much paranoia as applying a high standard to storage. It seems to address a lot of concerns when it's out of sight, and someone had to get past two locks to get it. Treat it like you borrowed it and you won't lack for security.
Accesibility vs. mashing the accelerator? I was trained to use the vehicle no matter what, but that's really a different discussion - and I bet everyone else will conscientiously stick to the main topic, too.
The instructors at the CCW course I just finished often mentioned just putting the firearm in the glove box or console when entering a prohibited carry building. I'm looking into something more secure, such as a Tuffy console or strong box I can mount for ease of use and concealment. I don't want to appear noticeably storing a firearm to the public passing by.
It's not so much paranoia as applying a high standard to storage. It seems to address a lot of concerns when it's out of sight, and someone had to get past two locks to get it. Treat it like you borrowed it and you won't lack for security.
Accesibility vs. mashing the accelerator? I was trained to use the vehicle no matter what, but that's really a different discussion - and I bet everyone else will conscientiously stick to the main topic, too.
The Bushmaster
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Tirod...You need to have a look at the laws in Missouri again. You may have a handgun in your vehicle, loaded and concealed without a CCW permit...As long as you are old enough to own a firearm...Does not need to be in a locked container or have a lock on it. Anotherwords...Ready to go...
If you are worried that someone is going to break into your car you will have to have a lock box that is BOLTED to the vehicle.
As far as Regen requested...I have mine on my person at all times while in my vehicle...
If you are worried that someone is going to break into your car you will have to have a lock box that is BOLTED to the vehicle.
As far as Regen requested...I have mine on my person at all times while in my vehicle...
I read a little thing on strategies and tactics by Box o' Truth a while back, and it influenced my thinking on car carry.
If my car is being forcibly entered, or attempts are being made by a perp, or I am drawn on or shot at, here are my options in order:
1) Pedal to the metal. E&E. Lay down fire to keep the perp's head down if necessary.
2) Car as weapon. More effective and easier than a gun, every time.
3) If car is blocked in and I am about to be shot, get out of car and escape or return fire.
4) If I can't get out of car, can't leave in car, and can't use car as weapon, shoot from car and attempt to stop the threat.
Because option 3 & 4 are the worst case scenarios, and option 4 is the only one that requires a fast draw from inside the car, I choose to carry on my person while in the car - "wear my gun" as sm and others call it - simply because I will probably not be using my gun from within my car if I can escape using the car, or use the car as a weapon instead. If I have to use the gun I will probably be on foot.
If my car is being forcibly entered, or attempts are being made by a perp, or I am drawn on or shot at, here are my options in order:
1) Pedal to the metal. E&E. Lay down fire to keep the perp's head down if necessary.
2) Car as weapon. More effective and easier than a gun, every time.
3) If car is blocked in and I am about to be shot, get out of car and escape or return fire.
4) If I can't get out of car, can't leave in car, and can't use car as weapon, shoot from car and attempt to stop the threat.
Because option 3 & 4 are the worst case scenarios, and option 4 is the only one that requires a fast draw from inside the car, I choose to carry on my person while in the car - "wear my gun" as sm and others call it - simply because I will probably not be using my gun from within my car if I can escape using the car, or use the car as a weapon instead. If I have to use the gun I will probably be on foot.
Blacksmoke
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I just lay the tubes of my SxS Stoeger 12 Coach Gun on the Driver's window ledge with the stock inside my seat restraint. That way it is always where I need it. Occasionally, I get odd reactions from toll both attendents and at drive-through windows of fast food restaurants. 
Seriously, I hang a gun belt over the back of the driver's seat. My Redhawk rests in the holster.
I was thinking of mounting my Mini-14 on the roof of my truck cab and adding a lanyard from the trigger into the cab. It might take a while to get the paralax out of the sighting but it should be workable eventually.
Seriously, I hang a gun belt over the back of the driver's seat. My Redhawk rests in the holster.
I was thinking of mounting my Mini-14 on the roof of my truck cab and adding a lanyard from the trigger into the cab. It might take a while to get the paralax out of the sighting but it should be workable eventually.
Black XD 45 ACP Tactical, with a black Glock GTL 21 laser in a padded black zip case, open w/ ready access in the side pocket on the driver's door. The side pocket area is black, and low down near the same level with the black interior upholstery.
Looking through the windows, even with a flashlight, it's difficult to see that there's a gun in the side pocket. With the case zipped it could easily be a "day planner" notebook.
And if I walk away from having the vehicle in direct view, the gun is locked in the trunk, in the spare tire compartment.
Looking through the windows, even with a flashlight, it's difficult to see that there's a gun in the side pocket. With the case zipped it could easily be a "day planner" notebook.
And if I walk away from having the vehicle in direct view, the gun is locked in the trunk, in the spare tire compartment.
ArchAngelCD
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Regen,
The cup holder will work but I found that a J frame carried in a pocket holster will also be held firmly if you push it between the seat and center console on your right side. (when driving of course) All that shows is the grips and you can draw the gun very easily.
If you're looking for a more structured way of carrying you J frame in a car there are several products on the market to do that. One product made by DeSantis is the Kingston Car Seat Holster. This "holster" mounts on your car seat and the gun is holstered between your legs right on the front of the seat. There are others around but I know this one works...
The cup holder will work but I found that a J frame carried in a pocket holster will also be held firmly if you push it between the seat and center console on your right side. (when driving of course) All that shows is the grips and you can draw the gun very easily.
If you're looking for a more structured way of carrying you J frame in a car there are several products on the market to do that. One product made by DeSantis is the Kingston Car Seat Holster. This "holster" mounts on your car seat and the gun is holstered between your legs right on the front of the seat. There are others around but I know this one works...
The Lone Haranguer
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Just finished setting up my rig
I have a soft leather holster that I took out of my "holster box" (used to store holsters that for whatever reason did not work out) and put to work. Because it is soft it will accommodate a variety of handguns of the same general size. My new car (2009 Toyota Corolla) has a deep storage box in the center console. I purchased a Velcro strip kit, put one side vertically inside the inner surface of the box and the other side on the back of the holster. The adhesive on the back of the strip would not stick to the suede leather backing of the holster, so I used additional contact cement to hold it in place. (How well this will hold up after being pulled off a few times, remains to be seen.) Because the box is deep and the underside of the cover is recessed, I can even close the cover over the gun. The cover also has a detent to hold it open in the vertical position. When driving around town I leave the lid up so the gun is accessible for carjack defense. If I want to conceal or store the gun I close it.
If you just stick the gun in a cup holder, lay it on the seat or even wedge it between the seat and floor tunnel or console, it will fly about in a sudden hard stop, let alone a crash. Trust me on this.
I have a soft leather holster that I took out of my "holster box" (used to store holsters that for whatever reason did not work out) and put to work. Because it is soft it will accommodate a variety of handguns of the same general size. My new car (2009 Toyota Corolla) has a deep storage box in the center console. I purchased a Velcro strip kit, put one side vertically inside the inner surface of the box and the other side on the back of the holster. The adhesive on the back of the strip would not stick to the suede leather backing of the holster, so I used additional contact cement to hold it in place. (How well this will hold up after being pulled off a few times, remains to be seen.) Because the box is deep and the underside of the cover is recessed, I can even close the cover over the gun. The cover also has a detent to hold it open in the vertical position. When driving around town I leave the lid up so the gun is accessible for carjack defense. If I want to conceal or store the gun I close it.
If you just stick the gun in a cup holder, lay it on the seat or even wedge it between the seat and floor tunnel or console, it will fly about in a sudden hard stop, let alone a crash. Trust me on this.
Ske1etor
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I carry inside my waistband in the 3:00 position.
I used to carry my pistol between the seats in a cheapo nylon holster until I was broadsided and flipped my truck and the pistol went missing for a few minutes...
I used to carry my pistol between the seats in a cheapo nylon holster until I was broadsided and flipped my truck and the pistol went missing for a few minutes...
I think careful consideration should be given to the usefulness of a "car holster" setup.
When would you need to draw quickly inside the car that the time would not be better spent flooring it and getting the heck away from whatever's threatening you?
Ok, so you're blocked in traffic...if your car is being shot into and you're blocked into traffic, you're probably better off getting out of the car since it isn't protecting you anyway - and it's much easier to shoot into than out of a car. It's also hard to exit a car with a gun in one hand when you're being shot at, so the logical thing to do seems to be to exit the car and then draw, or just evade if you are indeed blocked in traffic.
Hence I "wear my gun," but to each his own.
When would you need to draw quickly inside the car that the time would not be better spent flooring it and getting the heck away from whatever's threatening you?
Ok, so you're blocked in traffic...if your car is being shot into and you're blocked into traffic, you're probably better off getting out of the car since it isn't protecting you anyway - and it's much easier to shoot into than out of a car. It's also hard to exit a car with a gun in one hand when you're being shot at, so the logical thing to do seems to be to exit the car and then draw, or just evade if you are indeed blocked in traffic.
Hence I "wear my gun," but to each his own.
dmazur
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+1 to wearing it. Find a comfortable holster and keep it on your person.
I don't do a lot of long-distance driving (2 hrs typical), so I can handle a typical OWB slide holster with a 1911 worn at 4 o'clock.
I have read that a cross-draw holster can be a lot more comfortable for extended driving or sitting.
You kind of have to experiment with the holster and seat belts to get one that allows the seat belt to go under it, IMO. You don't want the seat belt on top of the pistol...
I don't do a lot of long-distance driving (2 hrs typical), so I can handle a typical OWB slide holster with a 1911 worn at 4 o'clock.
I have read that a cross-draw holster can be a lot more comfortable for extended driving or sitting.
You kind of have to experiment with the holster and seat belts to get one that allows the seat belt to go under it, IMO. You don't want the seat belt on top of the pistol...
TStorm
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I have a leather pocket holster that came with my PM9 that fits great in a space that was evidently designed for CDs in the console of my truck. A few magic markers wedge this in perfectly so it does not move around. I can access this as fast or faster than my primary carry method while seated.
I also purchased one of the metal lock-boxes with a cable for securing firearm when having to park for an extended period and can not carry. It is tethered to the seat frame under the passengers seat. Console and glove box on my primary vehicle do not lock.
I've got another post asking specifically about glove compartment carry for a J-frame (for wife.) I welcome feedback from all here.
I also purchased one of the metal lock-boxes with a cable for securing firearm when having to park for an extended period and can not carry. It is tethered to the seat frame under the passengers seat. Console and glove box on my primary vehicle do not lock.
I've got another post asking specifically about glove compartment carry for a J-frame (for wife.) I welcome feedback from all here.
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researchdoc
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I wedge my gun between seats between me. Draws fast and is positioned perfectly.
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