Car load of punks shows up at my house...

[cassandrasdaddy]

my paranoia

has me with gate and camera i can open gates with keypads remotes or 2 switches in house. the camera looks like a stasndard floodlight bulb transmits over ac lines is ir eqipped. has range of at leat 400 feet. i made 2 gate openers from cheap craftsman garage door openers less than 200 a gate for everything parts at sears.com. plans downloadable from the net for small fee. 2 gates lets me "airlock" in and out keeps animals in. hot wire on fence with signs no trick or treaters ever

 

[Lupinus]

To fully appreciate this picture, you also have to understand that when I worked on my own property here in the deep south, it was my usual habit not to wear any clothes. (Washing clothes was a hell of a drain on my water an electric. Seeing how I was mostly off-grid, it was more efficient to just wash me than wash clothes...)

So...there I am STARK NAKED HOLDING A RIFLE...and granny is STILL gonna drive up to the house to ask me stupid questions. The sherrif got a complaint one time and came out to see me. That was a pretty interesting conversation...

Admit it, you were betting on chicks diggin the famers tan and didn't want tan lines

You weren't by chance wearing a cowboy hat and boots were you? If not that may have been your problem.

And any place left to hide a gun (yes, one comes to mind) leaves mental images that will haunt me forever

 

[meef]

i had a sks an u no it was on of the bestest ever guns i ev r had. it didnt' rust an wuld fire ever time i puled the triger just as long as it had bullits in it u no? somtimes i just dont' no wye poeple dis them like they do do you? an i culd leaf it almost out inna rain an it wuldnt' even get rustie ether u no wat i mean?

upchuck itdick tuttiwop fruitti

 

[Engel]

I lived at the top of this mountain before I joined the military. We didn't have visitors.

 

[huntinstuff]

When I horseback ride ( I have 640 acres), I usually put on my 44-40 Vaquero. Sometimes I tie on my 16" Winchester 32spl. lever. We don't have many problems with trespassers here but I believe in preventive measures.

Sounds like trespassers cause a lot of trouble for some of you fellas. Bit of a different world I guess.

 

[the pistolero]

Quote:

carry a piston on u. i do most of the times, even around the house.

Hmmm, never thought of that. What size? 350? 396? I assume you'd want one of the larger pistons?

I only go with the big bores, at least a 409, but preferably a 429 or 460. You just can't rely on those sub-caliber pistons for a one whack stop.

Well, I was gonna say, long as it's at least a 400. But one-a them hot-rodded 350s, 351s, 390s or 396s oughta do you right, too.

 

[kirkcdl]

If you can't afford the multiple hundreds of dollars for a gate,find a natural "choke point" as referenced earlier,and put a heavy chain across the road with flags of some sort on it so it can be seen day or night.And I'd buy an AK instead of an SKS,it has higher capacity,UMMM...I mean "deterrent factor"...

 

[VegasEgo]

My neighboorhood

In my neighboorhood( its a upscale gated community), everyone here is antigun, so whenever i come home from shooting I have to 'hide' to unload everything from my car, or my neighbors call the cops. I have had the cops called on my house around 5 times, or something around there, everytime the call sounded like this, multiple suspects entering house with mutliple high powered weapons, car is out front, I even had a shots fired call. That was the extent of most of the calls, which sucks because when something actaually happens now the cops arnt going to rush over here, I know most of the cops by name now, because of this...

We had several burgalries in our neighboorhood, and I remember my neighboor seeing someone roaming around in here front yard, well she called me to come shoot at him, to scare him away.... That was the last time I ever talked to her, or even picked up the phone when she called... I swear some people.... :banghead:

 

[ArfinGreebly]

meef

i had a sks an u no it was on of the bestest ever guns i ev r had. it didnt' rust an wuld fire ever time i puled the triger just as long as it had bullits in it u no? somtimes i just dont' no wye poeple dis them like they do do you? an i culd leaf it almost out inna rain an it wuldnt' even get rustie ether u no wat i mean?

Dude.

You mean:

i had a sks an u no it was on of the bestest ever guns i ev r had. it didnt' rust an wuld fire ever time i puled the triger just as long as it had [alot of] bullits in it u no? somtimes i just dont' no wye [alot of] poeple dis them like they do do you? an i culd leaf it almost out inna rain [alot] an it wuldnt' even get rustie ether u no wat i mean?

Try to keep up, okay?

 

[ArfinGreebly]

VegasEgo

Where are that?

Summerlin? Spanish Springs? Seven Hills? Green Valley? The Lakes?

Just checkin' so's I don' go visitin' there.

 

[grampster]

hee hee, arfin.

 

[jaholder1971]

Nio: Pardon me while I CLAW OUT MY EYES TRYING TO REMOVE THAT VISUAL FROM MY MIND!!!

On a serious note: It's one thing to have the right to right to bear arms on one's property, no one is questioning that. But there's something to be said when a feller' can't even plant veggies on his land barefoot without having to worry about stashing a weapons for 'special occasions'.

Get the fence. get the opener. Stanley makes them, too.

Also get a NO TRESSPASSING sign. That way the next time some shmuck tries to use your drive to elude the cops everyone involved get a Criminal Tresspass citation,too.

Nio: Fer God's sake, run some rural power and water to the house, buy a washer and at least enter the 20th century.

 

[meef]

Damn, Arfin....

You do me better than I do....

(and I don't mean that in a, well... you know.... sort of way....)

 

[Horsesense]

It was some kids looking to avoid a ticket, no biggie.

Sure, there is a remote possibility that gang bangers may drive up your/or my driveway with guns blazing, but how likely? There is, I suppose, a slight tactile advantage to having a gun on you while working in the yard, but at the same time, you could have been shot dead in your yard because, you apparently, approached an unknown out in the open....if you had had a gun on you, you still would have been in a gun fight. If someone needs shooting, shoot them but stay away from gun fights.

We all have to asses our own situations and decide how much risk we are willing to take and how we will mitigate those risks, so its not for me to say about you but if it were me, I would file the incident away in my mind as a reason to think about cover and distance.

 

[TallPine]

Sure, there is a remote possibility that gang bangers may drive up your/or my driveway with guns blazing, but how likely?

Those remote possibilities can reach out and bite you when you least expect.

A month or so back, an elderly couple in the next valley over was robbed at gunpoint by a fugitive. It was dark and cold and wet and they had graciously let him in the house to warm up. Of course the #$%^&* sheriff didn't bother to make sure that everyone in the area was advised of the manhunt. I followed the whole thing on my radio, but it wasn't until later that night after all the deputies went back to town that the robbery (keys to their pickup) occurred.

Every single time I start thinking "gee, why do I need to carry this gun around with me all the time?" something happens to remind me why I do.

 

[dhoomonyou]

Fanny Pack.

 

[PrimaryB]

Timely post and the suggestions of gates and or sensors are good food for thought. We are in the process of moving to a new house with a short 500' driveway off of a somewhat major highway. The house is secluded, hidden by trees and visitors will not be seen coming down the drive until they are literally at the house. The gate is out of the question because there are other ways to drive onto the property if one has deliberate intentions. I think an "eye" with solar panel fits our needs. Would have never given this a thought until reading this thread. Kids are gone so already have given thought to strategically placed guns around the house. I need to keep an eye out for perhaps a stubby stainless that I don't give a rats a$$ about that can be dropped in the mud or snow, left out in the humid summers we have or used as a hammer when I'm to lazy to get one. A 357 or 44mag would be my choice.

As far as no trespassing signs go whether they can read them or not, I think there is some legal significance/advantage in our state in case something bad happens to said trespasser? Any comments?

PB

 

[ZeSpectre]

PrimaryB,
In your case some good old noisy hound dawgs might be just the ticket

 

[scrat]

i had a friend a long time ago. In his living room about 15 feet from the front door was a picture on his wall. If you grabbed the corner of the picture and turned it up he cut a square in the drywall and there he kept a loaded 38.
Only him and his wife knew about it and me.

 

[collateral]

do not use or get an sks. they r not reliable or accurate. u need a revolver of high cal. or a shot gun w/ sum buckshot.

I would trust my life to my sks any day of the week. It is as accurate as I would ever need any rifle to be, its been exposed to some pretty grimey conditions (lots of mud, sand, and water), and I know that it will go bang every time. But as it goes with almost every mil-surp, the quality does very quite a bit. If you buy a coroded/junk gun, its going to perform how any coroded junky gun will.

I would suggest a sturdy gate, a dog/dogs would be a very good idea, but owning several large dogs does require a few lifestyle changes. As far as carrying while doing yardwork, et cetera, I see no reason why not to carry a handgun or have some sort of longarm nearby. There is no firearm that is ideal for every single situation. And honestly, with most young punks, the sight of a man with a firearm who is determined to defend his family will be enough deterrance.

I would prefer a smaller caliber pistol that would guarentee a quick follow up shot than a hand cannon any day of the week.

If you are leery about carrying a firearm around your family/children, keep a shovel/baseball bat nearby.

 

[bglz42]

The gate is out of the question because there are other ways to drive onto the property if one has deliberate intentions.

I think you guys are missing the point on the whole gate thing. It's not built to keep a determined foe from entering. You'd have to build Ft. Knox for that, and live like an inmate. The gate stops casual visitors. Period. My gate stops the myriad asphalt salesmen from venturing up my drive, and casing my house. (Sometimes my wife is home alone...) It stops my well-intentioned neighbors from just dropping by, when I'm busy doing other things. Basically it allows me to control my property. A four wheel drive could approach from my hay fields, I suppose, but he'd be spotted by my dogs well within rifle range.

The gate does not have to be big, heavy or particularly strong. I use tube gates from TSC, with an inexpensive gate actuator (GTO Pro or Mighty Mule).

In my experience, bad circumstances often arise from ordinary circumstances. Imagine a couple a guys who just made a wrong turn and ended up in your drive. While turning around they spot your wife or daughter. No one else around. A crime of "opportunity" occurs.

It's my solemn duty to reduce the chances of harm coming to my wife. And secondarily, myself and my property. By eliminating "opportunities", I'm doing my job.

 

[PrimaryB]

bglz42 good morning. In my case at the entrance of the drive there is an access drive that leads to a pasture adjacent to our property so the neighbor up the road can check his cattle. Part of the property agreement and it turns out I know him so no big deal. It Y"s off our drive. But to know someone is coming down our drive unanticipated during the wee hours when we are home would be really nice. I could be up and armed in advance and determine whether it is neighbor, friend or foe. Obviously as you suggest nothing is going to keep anybody out. Our house sits high above the Flint Hills Tall Grass Preserve and can see people in back of our property coming at a distance. Yes we have dogs.

 

[Quoheleth]

Couple of thoughts...

Growing up out in the boonies, I also worked at the local car shop. We had lots of people coming & going, some of less than questionable character. We kept stashed around the garage three or four of these:

http://http://www.verney-carron.us/

They are inexpensive, single-shot .410 shotguns. Hollow stock holds extra rounds. we kept ours loaded, but if you don't like doing that because of the kids, keep the rounds in the stock - pretty quick to grab a shell, break it open, and drop a shell in while walking around the corner of the gargae. Since there were three of us around, chances are if a BG or BGs came in, one of us could get to one of these little jewels pronto. I won't put up any argument that the .410 is inferior to a 12 gauge, but this little gun is easy to hide, even against a leg to go meet someone. It i stainless, so it will resist rust a bit better. And, with so little invested, if it does get a bit rusty or banged up, you're not out a ton.

Oh...and they were also useful for the occassional snake, rabid dog, or skunk that wandered too close.

Q

 

[armoredman]

If legally allowed, carry a sidearm at all times. Running back to the safe/house in an emergency is a good way to get shot in the back. It doesn't matter if it's a snub J-frame, a 1911, or a CZ, the mere display of the firearm can cause many with hostile intent to suddenly remember pressing engagements elswhere. I carry all the time, it's second nature, and no bother.

Nio, that was seriously a visual I didn't need. Gah.


Lupinos, (and others with the same disgusting thought), YES, it's been done. At my first prison I worked at, there was an x-ray of an inmate with an NAA mini revolver "keistered". That would have been the first firearm I would want nothing to do with, at all.

DC, I have owned 3 SKS rifles, a Norinco and two Yugos. All of them worked/do work flawlessly. Sorry yours had a failure, but the vast majority do not. Fo shizzle.

 

[LAK]

Long story short, this was a case of a young driver making a poor choice after getting tagged doing 77 in a 55 zone and picking my rural driveway as a getaway spot. It could have been a lot worse and I was caught unprepared.

And one could speculate that the scenario could have been a Platt and Mattix who had say just robbed a bank - and given the FBI the complete slip. Meaning no cavalry following them up the driveway.