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Caracal 9mm

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by el Godfather, Jul 13, 2012.

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  1. el Godfather

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    Dear THR
    I would like to request your opinions on the quality of Caracal 9mm pistols. How do you rate it accuracy, ergonomics and reliability wise, and how does it mrasure up to Glock and Steyr M9?

    Thanks
     
  2. pat701

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    I don't know anyone that owns one. That say's something i think.
     
  3. RBid

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    What it says is that they're very tricky to find. :)

    Everyone who I have seen reviews from says:
    - 'trigger is almost as good as the PPQ trigger'
    - very soft shooting/minimal felt recoil
    - eats everything. No fails.
    - passed NATO and German police tests
    - feels good in the hand


    Based on WHO reviewed it (MAC/Sturmgehwere, plouffedaddy, etc), I trusted the trigger remarks. I was skeptical about the ergonomics, though. When I finally got to hold and dry fire one (Caracal C, standard sights), I was VERY impressed. The trigger is as good as advertised. The ergonomics are better than they look. The slide profile and bore axis lens credibility to the 'soft shooting' claims.

    I have also seen video of these in rapid fire, underwater.


    If Caracal gets the right kind of distribution going, this may be the best pistol in the sub-$850 price range.
     
  4. tekarra

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    Have you done a search? I recall a few posters saying good things about them.
     
  5. Dreamliner787

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    I'm just not sure why people don't just get a Glock when most of the reviews are comparing it against a Glock. At least the Glock has a longer track record.
     
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    Solid gun. Well thought out design. The only comparison I'll make to a Glock is that---in my experience--the Caracal I own is better designed and better made than and Glock I have handled.
     
  7. TennJed

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    never shot one, but have not read a bad review yet
     
  8. Girodin

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    About your acquaintances or about the gun?

    Bubits has a history of designing solid guns (steyr M series and Walther PPS). This looks to be another one. At $400 it is certainly worth a look. I'm interested in a Caracal C.
     
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    I purchased a Caracal 9mm Compact with quick sights from Davidson's 2 months ago. It is a keeper. Best feature is its ergonomic design. Second best feature is its tame recoil. It definitely is a quality piece. I've had no problems with it.
    I also have a Glock 26 and a S&W 669 9mm. I'm not a "this gun is better than that gun guy". I like the Glock and the S&W. Will be keeping them.
    The biggest mystery is the Caracal price. It is definitely a bargain!
     
  10. PabloJ

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    I think quality and ergonomics are first rate and reviews have been excellent but when it came down to it I picked Glock instead. Make sure you like the gun before you buy it because you're likely take sobering bath if you choose to move Caracal at later time. Americans like guns used by military or police and the only country they respect, support and admire in middle east is Israel.
     
  11. RBid

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    Dreamliner,

    Because it's like a Glock in terms of simplicity (28 parts), reliability, and durability. It's what a Glock would be with a better trigger, better ergonomics, lower slide profile, and lower cost.

    That's a lot of wins.

    I'm not trying to bash Glock. This gun is basically the next step in Glock evolution.
     
  12. Water-Man

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    Spare parts, customer service and after-market support are still an unknown as of now.
     
  13. el Godfather

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    I am buying one today!
    Hopefully a full size one or a sub comp.
     
  14. Girodin

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    That is how I've described the Steyr M series to people.

    I think the steyr really was that. Is this a further step? Part of me wants to spend the $400 to get one to find out for myself. Another part of me is strongly inclined to believe there likely isn't enough difference to justify buying a very similar pistol, 6-10 new mags, new mag pouches, and new holster(s).

    Where a glock still really shines over the steyr and I'd imagine the caracal, at least for now, is aftermarket support. There are lots of holster options for a glock, for the Steyr I can get my prefered one, an RCS phantom. What exists for the caracal? Who makes mag pouches? I can get a .22 LR upper for my glocks, not for the others. I can get a $100 threaded barrel to run a can on my glocks. The stery threaded barrel cost $300!!! I didn't even pay that for one of my Steyrs. Steyr is nice enough to offer a full conversion kit to change calibers. It costs as much as you can find a whole gun for, $400. Are there threaded barrel options for the caracal. What is available in terms of sights. You can get a sub 2000 (or other carbine) that takes the same mags as your glock. I can get 33 rd mags for the glock. I know there are companies that can and will mill the slide for a RMR. Will that work with a caracal and who will do it and how much will it cost. Oh and will there be holsters for that like there is for the glock.

    I do think there is WAY more available for a glock than anyone really needs. I tend to only change sights and added a threaded barrel for a can. However, the many options and wide range of equipment available is nice.

    I would think the aftermarket support for the Caracal will grow. I doubt it will catch up with Glock but as long as I can get the basic things I need, good holster, mag pouches, mags, for a reasonable price that is fine. I can actually get steyr mags slightly cheaper than glock mags.
     
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    I own one and love it
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    The only Glock I owned was a 22 so not a great comparison with a caracal c that I own. But I do like the trigger.

    I couldn't say any more than has already been said here and for 399 you wont go wrong.
     
  17. PabloJ

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    Unless you hold an FFL the price is closer to $450. If you try to sell used one as private citizen I suspect the joy will turn into lament.
     
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    I bought a Caracal C at the end of May. It is everything the hype said it was.It has replaced my M&Pc as my everyday carry.
     
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    I bought one 399 OTD. And I've seen online for $399 and there is an FFL near my who'll do transfers for $10
     
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    I don't know anyone that owns a Korth revolver. I guess I can chalk that up as a bad gun
     
  21. Girodin

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    There are places online selling them for $399 with free shipping. So unless you are getting absolutely screwed on the transfer fee it is not closer to $450. I pay $10 for a transfer which makes the OTD price $409. $409 is much closer to $399 than it is to $450
     
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    Yes it does.

    It says first of all that their priorities were marketing the pistol to the military of countries in the Middle East and not marketing the pistol to civilian shooters in the U.S.

    It also says they hired the wrong people to manage their marketing and logistics in the U.S. because even when they got around to trying to get the pistol to market here - they bungled it.

    What it does not say about the firearm is anything concerning the quality or functionality of the pistol.
     
  25. Girodin

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    That is a pretty early declaration. They are just starting out here really. Saying the "bungled it" is like declaring a baseball game over after top of the first inning.

    Furthermore, the fact that one dude in CHICAGO (not exactly the handgun owning capitol of the world) states that he doesn't know anyone with one means nothing. We nothing nothing about how many people he knows who own guns. If he didn't know anyone that owned an HK USP would that mean HK hand "bungled it" etc.

    I don't know anyone who owns a Sig P938 (and I have lots of gun friends with fairly extensive collections) does mean that sig bungled the release of the P938?
     
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