Caracal F & C: Pics

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Certainly they look pretty interesting. Is the C model really less tall at the grip than a G19?. Doesn't look so, and it even looks like there isn' much height difference between the two.

How does the striker work?. Is it half cocked ala Glock or fully cocked ala XD?.
 
Certainly they look pretty interesting. Is the C model really less tall at the grip than a G19?. Doesn't look so, and it even looks like there isn' much height difference between the two.

How does the striker work?. Is it half cocked ala Glock or fully cocked ala XD?.
They are pretty much identical with just a slight overall height difference favoring the Caracal.

The striker is partially cocked like a Glock.
 
Just because it's an evolution of some other gun doesn't mean it should be simpler.

Easier to work on a car today or 50 years ago?
The modern car engine is more difficult to work on. But it's more efficient, more reliable, more durable, and has higher power output:weight. So you're saying that the Steyr has evolved in the complexity department. Nice.

I'm not a Glock folk. Glocks are only a quarter of my handgun collection, and I only have so many because I have an LEO friend who updated to the latest gen4 stuff and gave me a deal. There are many things I like about them, and the way the parts go together is part of the allure. I have taken apart most of my firearms down to pieces, for one reason or another. And on every one but a Glock, I'd be loathe to have to do it again.

If the Caracal does, indeed, have less parts and manages to be as easy as a Glock to detail strip and put back together (my gauge is the number of swear words it takes to get the thing back together :)) then that would make it more interesting and noteworthy, IMO.
 
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It's more difficult than a Glock.

The slide has roll pins holding the striker assembly in. But I fail to see the need to detail strip my guns very often so it's not a big deal to me.
 
You need a punch to do a basic field strip

No you really don't. The person in that video may have used one (likely so you could see), however, I can assure you that one can field strip it by hand and that depressing that thing doesn't require a punch. One could try to make fine distinctions about the relative difficulty of field stripping either but both are so easy its not really worth the effort to discuss it.
 
No you really don't. The person in that video may have used one (likely so you could see), however, I can assure you that one can field strip it by hand and that depressing that thing doesn't require a punch. One could try to make fine distinctions about the relative difficulty of field stripping either but both are so easy its not really worth the effort to discuss it.
I agree. I've owned a Steyr S9 for several years, having traded a Glock 22 straight across for it. What the narrator called a "safety" (really a child-proofing ploy) is easily depressed by the thumb sufficiently to allow the take-down lever to rotate past it. And the design allows one to easily keep one's hands well clear of the muzzle while operating it, unlike the Glock which has wounded more than one owner who got a bit absent-minded while field-stripping. Taking out that trigger group as one unit is far easier than taking the same parts out of a Glock, which does require punching out more than one pin to do the equivalent task and which requires far more manual dexterity to reassemble. Given that Bubits designed both, with the Caracal intended to be a further evolution of the Steyr M-series, I can only believe that the Caracal is an even better gun.
 
They look like a very improved Steyr. I hear they are much less finicky about what you shoot through them. I plan on getting the C model for my next handgun purchase. We will seeing these a lot more soon, as Caracal and their US distributor are planning a big ad campaign here in the coming months.
 
Since they are the product of a Glock designer that went on to become a Steyr designer that went on to become the Caracal designer, it shouldn't be a surprise that there are family resemblances. It also shouldn't be a surprise that each move led to improved designs as it is easier to make changes in a new product than one that already has an established customer base and all of the investment needed to produce something that is already selling successfully.
 
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