Caracal polymer pistol has less parts than glock

[Ascot500]

I like it because the top of the slide is not flat, it's radiused - just like JMB intended.

 

[iiibdsiil]

This looks like it might be an option for those that want a Steyr M9. Damn thing is hard to find as soon as I want one.

 

[Full Metal Jacket]

interesting construction:

 

[Full Metal Jacket]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSw9TdTLtpI&feature=player_embedded


video of the caracal. thing seems to hardly kick.

 

[jon_in_wv]

Having less parts than a Glock isn't that big of a deal. Most people people count the parts of a Glock at 34 but that isn't really an honest count. Several of the "parts" are sold assembled and actually consist of more than one part.
Part #8 spring cups (two parts)
Part #3+4 recoil rod/recoil spring (on the supbcompacts is actually 4 parts.)
Part 16a (A? Front sight +1 part)
Part 25a/b (I believe you would add +2 if you have the NY trigger)
Part #26 trigger and trigger bar (is actually 4 parts, trigger, trigger safety lever, trigger pivot pin (the pin that attaches the bar to the trigger), trigger bar.)
Part 32a (A?? that should be another part)
I think there are one or two other small parts and if you really want to be picky you could count some of the molded in parts like the slide rails that are molded into the plastic frame and the metal sleeve in the magazine body. Regardless that adds 5 to the total parts count giving it 39 for the full sized and 41 for the subcompact. The next gen with the removable backstraps will add even more to the count.
What does this mean? Nothing. I just think its fair to be accurate. Some people throw the low parts count (which at 39 is still pretty danged low) around like it proves that Glocks are better than other weapons. If that was the case than a Makarov is a better weapon than a Glock. Its a great weapon but its not better than a Glock. If you throw out non-functioal parts like grips and grip screws on the 1911 you get very close the parts count of the Glock. What does that mean? Nothing really.
Just food for thought.

 

[REAPER4206969]

Parts count does not really mean anything. However some military contracts have a maximum number of parts to qualify. That's why pistol companies make a big deal about it.

 

[ultradoc]

less parts=easier to clean?

 

[U-235]

Short Sight Radius?

Quoting 19-3 Ben:

I don't get it. What's with the read sights? Why on earth wuld you put them so far forward and ruin having a decent sight radius for more accurate distance shots. ("long range" as pistols go).

I noticed the same thing. In some of the pictures the rear sight is in front of the ejection port giving a very short sight radius. What would be the advantage of this?

 

[REAPER4206969]

less parts=easier to clean?

Less expensive and easier to manufacture and maintain, less parts to break, you can make more pistols with less material use in a "total war" situation, Etc.

 

[RedLion]

^^^It also makes advertising much easier.

 

[Jason_G]

One part....

Jason

 

[jon_in_wv]

less parts=easier to clean?

Not necessarily, the basically field strips just like any other semi-auto. Cleaning a Glock is just like cleaning one of them.

You don't even need to clean the stone. It works just as good dirty. From what I hear, Glocks are more reliable though.

 

[nwilliams]

First time I've seen one of these, I like it!

 

[Full Metal Jacket]

 

[REAPER4206969]

Good find.

 

[Full Metal Jacket]

thanx, i think this topic is too interesting to fall to the bottom

 

[Kingofthehill]

I really like the looks of this. Not to mention my Steyr M9 is my favorite polymer gun, it makes this gun really stand out to me.

Would love to get my hands on one of these... Would be nice to see them come over

JOe

 

[Manco]

The Caracal's internal structure--sort of an integrated steel subframe--reminds me of the M&P's in a way. Those slide guide rails have an awful lot of contact area, though. Maybe that's a good thing, I don't know, but it would seem to make the slide more susceptible to sticking from crud building up in there. Any thoughts?

 

[Full Metal Jacket]

^^^interesting inquiry.

however, it has been issued in various parts of the middle east (where the air is filled with sand) for several years now with great success.

google it, and check out the feedback.

 

[ckone]

Anyone know when they'll be available in the US?

I want one bad, it's a Steyr M-A1 with WAY simpler trigger clockwork, which I bet equals pure awesomeness!

 

[Full Metal Jacket]

^^^type in caracal pistol on google. there's a lot of info. i think it's tangfolio or EAA that will be importing them. read somewhere it's coming in a few months.

 

[REAPER4206969]

Maybe someone should call EAA and ask?

Tel. (321) 639-4842

 

[michiganfan]

I like that stock and foregrip combo.

 

[jigglyjames29]

^ me, too. It's too bad we can't legally put either on the gun without paying $200.

The subcompact is thinner than full size and compact versions.... yet the subcompact accepts the S and F mags!
I'm wondering why they didn't make the F and C models thinner as well...

 

[Kingofthehill]

Ive seen the stock for glocks and even the Steyr's but this one with the foregrip just looks AWESOME... well worth the 200 stamp IMO.

JOe