Carbine Recommendations?

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The 45 ACP Hi-Point carbine is a great gun. Every round went on target and the gun fired exactly when I wanted it to, at the moment I choose to fire.

Another good carbine is the Beretta Cx4 Storm. It's significantly pricier than the Hi-Point, you can't get big mags for it, and it doesn't come with the awesome Hi-Point customer service. It's still a natural pointer, ergonomic, and looks cool. Admittedly, it's technologically and ergonomically and aesthetically great gun, but I have problems really falling in love with it. It's got a lot of brains behind it, but no sort of something extra, or a personality, a bit of verve, or a soul. The feel of the gun is that it was built on a computer by a group of stuffy Japanese Salarymen who went down a checklist of every single normal feature on new generation small arms. Plastic furniture? Check. Accessory rail? check. Ambidextrous controls? Check. 16" Barrel? Check.
 
I have a SUb 2K and like it. It is economical, accurate enough for its purposes (I've never benched it to see just how accurate), mine has been 100% reliable and it takes glock mags which is nice. The folding feature is unique and nice.

The down sides are: the front sight is flimsy (but can be replaced with a sturdier unit), the trigger pull is pretty bad, fit and finish is what you'd expect for a sub $300 kel tec. Mounting optics is a challenge and it is a weapon that cries for a RDS. The quad rail in the picture looks nice but I have read many many reviews that talk about how it comes loose. I cannot easily add a suppressor.

For the price the kel tec is pretty hard to beat. I had a hi point carbine and sold it. It was reliable and accurate for my purposes but it was unsightly and limited to 10 round magazines.

I wouldn't mind getting an Uzi SBR just for the coolness factor. I feel like an psitol caliber AR would be a better weapon than the kel tec, hi point, storm, etc but if I need a serious weapon then I would want a rifle round anyways. In sum, the kel tec serves my PCC purposes and does it with the advantage of folding away for storage and transport.


One I have wanted for a while but have held off on is a TMP with a folding stock. I'd probably have one but they are pretty spendy for a gun that wont do anything its much cheaper competition can.

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I'm guessing most pistol-caliber carbines carry that. After all, we're continually reminded that there's no OTHER reason...to have one!

For home defense or any situation in which one will be firing indoors pistol caliber carbines have a distinct advantage over an unupressed rifle caliber. Shoot a 5.56 or 7.62 indoors and it will probably set off your smoke detector which really won't matter as you will be too deaf to hear it.
 
pistol caliber carbines have a distinct advantage over an unupressed rifle caliber.
You apparently didn't see my post #20 where I talked about building (another) pistol-caliber carbine or the wink in my post #30 to hint at the tongue-in-cheek nature of my comment. You don't have to convince me of their usefulness. I LIKE 'em!
 
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