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Carjackers try for truck -- get lead instead

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  1. camacho

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    From todays Miami-Herald:
    http://www.miamiherald.com/466/story/190335.html

    Carjackers try for truck -- get lead instead
    BY ERIKA BERAS AND JENNIFER RODRIGUEZ
    Two carjackers tried to get away with Bruce Williams' pickup truck early Thursday morning.

    But Williams was packing a gun.

    Not only did they not get his vehicle, one of the carjackers got blasted by the would-be victim, who has a permit to carry a concealed weapon.

    They got away though.

    According to Bill Robertson, spokesman for the Miramar Police Department, this is what happened:

    Shortly before dawn, Williams made an ATM withdrawal at the Wachovia Bank at 6810 Miramar Pkwy. As he stepped away, he noticed a small brown Toyota circling the parking lot. As he got back into his 2007 white Lincoln Mark pickup, two men in their 20s approached him and demanded he get out.

    ''There was no mention of money,'' Robertson said. ``They just wanted his truck.''

    He quickly got out and gave up his keys.

    Then one of the robbers shot at Williams.

    Williams drew his own gun, a .44-special, and fired five rounds at the driver. At least one of the bullets hit the would-be carjacker.

    During the commotion, the pickup truck, which was in drive, continued to move driverless, crashing into a building.

    The would-be carjackers ran off. Police believe they were picked up by the driver of the Toyota, who took off as soon as bullets started flying.

    Miramar police recovered the truck, with blood inside.

    Williams, 57, of Opa-locka was being questioned by Miramar police Thursday. Williams has a concealed weapons permit.

    Emergency rooms were being monitored in case the man with the bullet wound should happen to show up.

    Herald correspondent Raul Torres contributed to this report.
     
  2. 41magsnub

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    Off topic, but what kind of freak drives a Lincoln pick up truck? Oh .. wait.. this is Miami. Nevermind...
     
  3. trueblue1776

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    pretty funny, I agree :D
     
  4. camacho

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    You said it, this is S. Florida :eek:
     
  5. Fred Fuller

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    Maybe he's a Travis McGee fan and a Lincoln was the best he could do (no more Rolls Royce pickups around)...

    lpl/nc
     
  6. Bruce333

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    Hmmm...I guess they were brandishing a gun? Story doesn't say anything about a gun until they shot at him. Why else would he just give up his keys...
     
  7. Black Adder LXX

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    And THAT is why I stay out of Miramar... Lincoln pickups :)

    Is it me or has there been a lot of FLA shooting stories lately?
     
  8. fletcher

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    That can't happen. Police Chief Friendly promised me nobody would get hurt if they complied with criminals.


    Good for that guy. It's a shame he didn't shoot them both.
     
  9. Thefabulousfink

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    I think that this is a textbook example of measured response from a CCWer. He attempted to end the encounter nonviolently until the scum robbing him tried to kill him. It seems a good case against the ANTI argument that CCWers are all trigger-happy yahoos.
     
  10. joab

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    .That story left out more details than anti stories usually do

    What ever happened to journalism?
    Are all reporters these days just high school kids out for extra credit?
     
  11. Geno
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    Guy must have been a Top Gun fan..."Do not fire until fired upon!" He should have been firing as he exited. Per the fact that they shot at him, they intended all along to kill him. But then, it is easy to Thursday evening quarterback.
     
  12. spin180

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    What's wrong with driving one of these?

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    If he likes it and has the means to afford it, then good for him.


    Geez...

    Might as well ask what kind of freak would carry a gun.

    :rolleyes:
     
  13. Bazooka Joe71

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    How come half of the reply's have been about a friggin truck? Who cares?



    I don't get it, you mean Monday morning?:D


    Ah, I see...Today is Thursday :D
     
  14. 41magsnub

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    My mocking of the truck choice is based on my location. Only a complete fool would use a lincoln (or caddy for that matter) truck for truck stuff. Imagine a load of gravel in the back of that... or even driving it down a gravel road. What a waste. No Montanan (native anyway) would be caught dead in one of those. The out of staters that come in and buy one so they have a truck and can blend in are roundly mocked.

    That said, I'm glad to see another example of a good and appropriate use CCW story even if my respect for the gentleman is diminished by his vehicular choices :).
     
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    Excellent post!
     
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    You guys should watch the bickering about the kind of truck. You know a mod will show up soon and lock the thread if you don't:rolleyes:
     
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    Great story.
     
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    I wasn't there but I'm pretty sure if i was getting car jacked and was already drawn upon I would leave the truck in drive and quickly step out, use the trucks forward movement as a distraction to draw my ccw weapon and fire at my would be assailants. Then as always when the cops showed up (finally) state that I was fired upon first and only then returned fire. I've said it before and it bears repeating FL has too many guns now for criminals to be the only ones owning them. You can expect to see alot more of these self defense shootings especially here in the SE region.
     
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    Great story. Too bad the anti-gun folks will never use this. I dont know if I would have been able to just hand over my keys. I guess it would depend on who it was, and what I thought they were up to. Good for this guy to not open fire and allowing the situation to possibly end with just a truck lost instead of a life. Good for him for getting one of them and staying alive.

    As for the truck, if you put down the truck, you put down the double cab ford as well. They are the same truck. Just like the Navigator and Expedition. So if you could not drive that POS down a dirt road, you could not take a ford down it either. Discussion not related and for another day however.

    And, I collect these stories in a word document I have going. If anyone knows of other good ones, let me know. Its called "reasons to own a gun"
     
  20. Outlaws

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    How is that any different from someone using a Ford F150 King Ranch? ;) That isn't far off the Lincoln's interior...or price. But it says "Ford" so its still somehow okay I guess. :banghead:
     
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  21. camacho

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    My wife and I were just talking about this today. It seems like there have been more recently!
     
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    It is hard to imagine that here. If you go to South Beach, down in Miami, you a can see a load of babes in the back of those but that's about it :)
     
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    excellent suggestion! (leaving the vehicle in drive) if it could be pointed at the bad guys it is a plus as well, thanks
     
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    So, you admit on a public gun forum likely to be looked at by prosecutors, wrongful death plaintiff's lawyers and perp's defense lawyers that you plan to fire first (not unreasonable given a gun pointed at you), and then LIE TO THE COPS ABOUT IT? Good job. Go to jail. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.
     
  25. joab

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    No need to lie in Florida
    Carjacking is a shootable offense here, we don't have to make excuses
     
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