Carry at work or not?

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I was told that it is verboten here, so I don't. Was verbally told "not even in your vehicle," but the employee manual says differently. I go with the verbally.

Personally, this really bothers me, but hey. I live in Misery. Could be worse. Could be Illinois.
 
I'm on the road all of the time for work (sales) and always carry. In fact, that was the whole reason for getting a CCW!

I DO NOT carry when one of my bosses is riding with me...he's pretty liberal. I just put the gun in a suitcase or bag while he's w/ me.

I assume consent unless told otherwise!


Lexter

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I last worked where carry into illegal (properly posted signs), also grounds for firing in employee contracts. I left in vehicle my CCW secured which was legal. Of course low profile know one suspected any way. Did carry a couple of disposable scalpels though.

Previous job, no posting against, boss carried to and from work--not in business. Lady sheeple mgr gets on a rampage because of some sheeple newscasts, and nearby shootings. We had been cased HARD, actually shook the crew up. Mgr overhears the boss thanking me for the fact I WAS carrying and had alerted police. He brings his gun INTO store (duh after the fact) Mgr raises a fit " I don't want guns in store". I start to pack up my stuff...jaws drop...ME " Until you will take FULL responsibility for me from the time I leave to arrive here, any business errands, and until I arrive home safely...I will CCW. Me as an employee with my right to carry, or you find someone else". Boss steps in " <mgr name> your a blathering idiot sometimes, you watch too much TV, I own the store, MY name is on the sign , and I sign the payroll...he <me> stays...only one that had sense to alert police and not bunch up and make things easy". OH he did ask what I carried--I had 2 that day...he sent mgr home early.
 
My employer has a stated policy of no weapons on company property -- and since our parking is company-provided, with really no other options to park anywhere else, that would include in the car, as well.

The area where our offices are located isn't the best area in the world, and we've had two "disgruntled employee"-type shootings in the buildings on either side of ours. I frequently go in while it's still dark, or leave after dark, and I also run errands and such after work before going home. Therefore .....

Concealed means concealed. ;)
 
My life is more important than my job.

Concealed means concealed.
 
I think I would find it odd that if a company had a no gun policy that such a policy would be in violation of state law. At least here in Texas, private property and corporate properties can make such restrictions just as I can for my own properties. The CHL laws say I can carry anywhere except those places where it is not allowed and in many businesses, it is not allowed.

Would I do it at work if it were not allowed, assuming that carrying at work was not a violation of the law? Maybe. The bottom line there concerns how badly I need the job or how well I can afford to lose that particular job.

If you are working for a place that does not allow concealed carry, then maybe you should be considering finding a new home that does allow it.
 
But there's lots of places I don't take a gun because of the law.

Question: Is it better to respect the law, or to respect what is right? The LAW isn't always RIGHT, not by a long shot...
 
:evil: A good number of the management just assumes I ccw at work. They never asked directly, but they all know I have a ccw, am an NRA member, and go shooting "EVERY" monday night(local idpa). Oh! I ccw 24/7 unless I'm going through a metal detector, did I mention, where I work downtown their was a murder at the side of our building, car jacking in the parking lot, armed robbery in the parking lot, and an armed robbery at the front door of an employee all in the last five years. YES, I will ccw, not one but two wherever I go.:fire:
 
Where I used to work they had a policy against carrying either on your person or in your vehicle on company property. I (and many others) would leave firearms locked and securely stored in our cars/trucks, and some carried in the office but I personally never did.

Where I am now we don't have a firearm policy and many people carry at work, discretely of course.
 
I don't know. My employer has a no weapons on premises policy. It's a tough question. It's easy to say it's only a job and you can find another one. Yet, I do hiring and I see in the applications on my desk a bunch of desperate unemployed people not being able to find jobs at their previous level. On one hand you can say, at least I'll be alive for my family. On the other hand, you can say if I don't carry at work, I'll not mess up a good thing for my family by risking my job and income. It's simply not an easy question.

RJ
 
Previous job, no posting against, boss carried to and from work--not in business. Lady sheeple mgr gets on a rampage because of some sheeple newscasts, and nearby shootings. We had been cased HARD, actually shook the crew up. Mgr overhears the boss thanking me for the fact I WAS carrying and had alerted police. He brings his gun INTO store (duh after the fact) Mgr raises a fit " I don't want guns in store". I start to pack up my stuff...jaws drop...ME " Until you will take FULL responsibility for me from the time I leave to arrive here, any business errands, and until I arrive home safely...I will CCW. Me as an employee with my right to carry, or you find someone else". Boss steps in " <mgr name> your a blathering idiot sometimes, you watch too much TV, I own the store, MY name is on the sign , and I sign the payroll...he <me> stays...only one that had sense to alert police and not bunch up and make things easy". OH he did ask what I carried--I had 2 that day...he sent mgr home early.

HAH HAH!!! :neener: :neener:

Talk about turning the tables on the bliss ninnies! :)
 
I don't carry at my current job, although the location isn't great and there have been incidents of muggings nearby, but, as with many others, there's a no weapons policy and I can't risk losing my job right now. If we're working late, we'll leave in groups to make it a little safer.

I used to work for a convenience store chain near Gary, IN (murder capital of the nation for many years) and I carried every time I worked the night shift, despite the anti-gun policies of the company. No one ever found out I carried, mainly because I never told ANYONE in the company. Bottom line is keep your mouth shut if you do carry at work and you should be alright.
 
The day to day current activities I engage in prevent me from being able to reasonably carry. Secondly the amount of time I spend in full viewe of the public makes carrying impractical at best. If thing go down so bad that I do need a gun there will probably be one of some sort within reach:uhoh: .
I did have a former employer that did out right state that CCW was against company policy, but mostly because he was afaid we were going to shoot him. I was more worried about being shot than termination at that point to as skilled labor jobs around here aren't to hard to find. We had a co-worker going through a nasty divorce, with his ex-brother-in-law giving us all of the dirt and then some, who a number of us honestly believed was going to go postal on morning. the rumor I heard was that the place looked like "Resevior Dogs" for all of the guns IWB, but i wouldn't know much about that..........
 
As far as I know my company does not even have an employee handbook. I won't ask for one either.

Even when companies do have policies against carrying weapons, how are they going to know if you are? If you have to walk through a metal detector, I can understand worrying about it. As long as you are not carrying an arsenal, nobody will ever know.
 
When I was hired at my current job, one of the first things I did was flip through the company policy manual looking for a firearms policy. I didn't see anything addressing the issue. So I carried.

At a social event, later, where a few of my coworkers were present, gun rights came up, and a discussion of ccw issues followed. I was asked point blank if I had my ccw, and if I carried. I answered honestly. "Even at work?" "Sometimes." In retrospect I probably should have either kept my mouth shut or lied.

A few weeks later one of the coworkers who had been present came to me to discuss the issue, saying she was "uncomfortable" with it. I replied that while I respected her opinion and feelings, I felt I was within my rights.

A day later she then showed me in the corporate policy manual that firearms were prohibited in the facility, and only allowed unloaded and locked in the parking lot. I honestly don't know if I missed that in my original review, or if the policy changed.

Two days after that I get called onto the carpet in my boss's office, and was issued a formal letter "for the record" telling me I was not to carry in the company facility. So now I don't.

The moral of that part of the story is to keep your mouth shut.

So does that mean that the right expressed in the 2nd Ammendment, or any of the other human rights, are only ideas we entertain when supporting them is painless

As for this part, I disagree that my agreeing not to carry means that I am any less principled or that I have compromised my values or beliefs. The rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights expressly limit the government. All of those rights, however, may be freely bargained for in a contractual private relationship. After all, isn't the most valuable human commodity our labor (time, freedom)? And isn't that the first thing we give up when we agree to work for someone? Yes, I have the right to do whatever I want tomorrow - stay home and read a book, go on a road trip, go shooting - BUT if I want a job and a paycheck, I have to go to work. I don't have freedom of speech while on the clock, and I don't have the right to be free from searches. I have given all of that up in exchange for a paycheck. By your standards, about the only way to be truly free would be to be self-employed. That is something I would like to work towards, but unfortunately not something everyone can do, particularly in some professions.
 
At least one. One of the benefits of self-employment. Sometimes stow in vehicle for brief trips inside school or, rarely, a post office. When going to sites other than my primary, just deeper concealment, most commonly ankle instead of IWB.
 
Merchant seaman here.

NO firearms allowed out here.

After 9-11, there was talk of issuing Mossberg shotguns, the kind that convert into line throwing guns, but that died out quickly. I think that was because that would mean training people. ($).

Actually, I'm a lot safer out here than I am when I'm off work, so I don't carry at work. No reasonable cause to.

Still, if I did, I wouldn't let anyone know. Although 99.9% of the guys out here are RKBA, they gossip worse than old ladies, and it'd get back to the higher ups via some suckass. All it takes is one.

I THINK that I could lose my seamans papers, license, etc if I got caught, and with the risk of violence out here being so low, it simply isn't worth it.
 
With the KT P-32 it is almost impossible not to carry if you really feel the need.

My company has a no-guns policy that includes no firearms in your car while conducting company business. I'll take my chances, I can replace my job, not my life.
 
DC, gov't building, metal detectors. No.

Of course, everything is perfectly safe here and there is no crime since guns are not allowed.

:rolleyes:
 
When I was younger, I used to deflect the question with a question.( Is this place so dangerous that I need to carry a gun?) Now that I qualify for a SS discount without showing ID. I just remind younger people that if any former employee or outsider goes "postal" I'll be your best friend. Brother-in-law, in different state(was anti-until 911) worked in telecuminication when SHTF 911, had a co. lockdown. He and others asked each other if "anyone" had a gun. Young secretary pointed to "Big" sign in lobby, "It is against the policy of...... to carry weapons on co. property." I don't just sometimes wear my seatbelt so...;)
 
Well, considering it is illegal to carry *any* weapon in public, concealed or not, here in Australia, what can I say... :rolleyes:

So, if I did carry, ever being found out is not an option...about the only time one should ever see me with the gun out in public is if I draw it in self-defence in a lethal-force situation...

Of course, some of you may use the justification "concealed is concealed," and if I were to carry, that would be my thoughts too...

However, unlike in the USA, here it is against the law... so penalties would involve my firearms license being revoked and a hefty fine.

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