Carry Everywhere You Can

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  1. Craig_VA
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    Always carry your gun, just in case. No telling who might need it!

    OK, this is a great story. An off-duty LEO in Texarkana was out for dinner with his LEO son when an altercation became a shooting in the restaurant. The police detective intervened and dealt with the criminal. But here is the nuance from the news story:
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    Easley and his son, a Texarkana patrol officer, gave chase as Sledge ran into Zapata's across East Third Street from Hopkins. When approached, Sledge allegedly pulled a firearm and pointed it at Easley -- who was unarmed -- inside Zapata's. When Easley backed away, Sledge allegedly ran to the back storage area of the eatery. Easley borrowed a 9 mm handgun from a Zapata's patron and proceeded to the back of the restaurant.
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    You can read the 10/22/21 whole story at
    Officer-involved shooting at downtown restaurant is found to be justified Detective's actions 'prevented injuries or death,' official says


    Enjoy!
     
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  2. FROGO207

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    You will never catch me saying, dang wish I had my pistol now. Like the old AmEx commercial "never leave home without it".
     
  3. Hartkopf

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    IMO, the last thought that runs through an unarmed persons mind as they are being murdered; "I wish I had a gun."
     
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    Even some of the lefties are starting to get it. Not all of them by any stretch of the imagination... but some of them.


     
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  5. Steve S.

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    I CCW for one very simple reason; when and if things go wrong, I want my wife to have a chance - I want a chance to give her a chance. I may not prevail in an altercation but, being totally helpless is just unthinkable to me. I want to at least have a chance.
     
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    The problem with people who rely on their 'feelies', (emotions) and not logic, having guns is they tend to not think before they act or speak; and if ever there is a time to think before acting or speaking, it's when you have a gun on you. More correctly, before you decide to carry or own a gun.
     
  7. Old Dog

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    Two cops, father and son, neither carrying off-duty? In Arkansas? I guess I can see that if they were planning on hanging out in a bar and possibly having more than a drink or two, but...

    As far as "The View" -- maybe there's hope, if one of the hosts came around. I still can't stand the opinions and values routinely espoused on the show. Especially Joy Behar. Note how she can spin anything...
     
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    When I leave the house I am armed 95% of the time. The other 5% I am hoping I don't miss being armed.
     
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    If you think too much you might as well leave your weapon at home to become part of your estate. Training and reacting will increase your odds over the bad guys, IMO.

    I get what you are saying but most situations don't allow for the "thinker" thing.
     
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    Even on gun forums there are people that choose to go unarmed when they otherwise could. Lackadaisical / Naïve / Pitiful (pick one).
     
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    I don't feel the need to go armed. It's a choice of lifestyle. By design, I lead a very secure lifestyle. And I resent being called naive or pitiful. (I could turn around and call those who carry paranoid. Name-calling gets us nowhere.)
     
  12. Kleanbore

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    Many people whom I know think the same way. I do not "feel the need"--I simply think it prudent.
    Yes--that is uncalled for.
     
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    Since first being exposed to a situation at age 11, where I was very happy that the leader of our entourage had a weapon, I have always attempted to be armed to the maximum of my legal and practical ability. As a 12 heard old, that might have been just my Crosman 1377 in a holster, but it fostered the mindset that expanded in my teens and 20's, and was greatly enhanced by getting my CCW permit at age 28.
     
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    Before concealed carry was lawful here, my wife and I drove into the country to photograph fall color. As we walked in a state park, we came upon a strange man who pulled a knife and held it behind his leg as he circled toward us. We were able to escape---barely. I carry now.
     
  15. Armored farmer

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    I've been pretty lax about carrying the last 8 weeks or so as we gave been deeply involved with our harvest marathon. I spend most of my days within sight of my house operating harvest equipment. We had a rainout about a week ago. Mrs and I made a flying trip to town to buy groceries and eat supper at our favorite restaurant. I got halfway to town and realized that I was unarmed......crap! It bothered me until I got home.
     
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    Precisely why I added the the part about before carrying or buying one.
    I agree, when it's go time, if you're thinking, you're already behind the OODA loop.
     
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    If I'm dining in a restaurant and someone runs in breathlessly asking to borrow a handgun I'm gonna decline to offer mine.
     
  18. Kleanbore

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    Had the patron followed that strategy, he or she might well have been among several innocent victims.
     
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    Agreed.
     
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    If I'm in a restaurant and someone comes running in, I'm going to put my hand on my gun. I always set in position to see the door and to not be first if someone opens fire. I rarely go into restaurants.

    If a plain clothes person says I'm a cop I need a gun, I'm not offering mine. I carry my gun for me and my wife and my sons immediate protection. I might offer my wife's gun, but he'd have to wait patiently while she digs it out of her purse.
     
  21. Good Ol' Boy

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    Yet another "why you should carry all the time" thread.

    Those that are unwilling to do so are not going to be converted. Much of the people in this country now are all about "feels".

    We can only hope there are some new folks who take advantage of this advice to carry from seeing these threads.

    And as to handing off my sidearm to a stranger supposedly in need, thats going to be a hard pass from me, for a whole host of reasons.
     
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    It just blows my mind that two LEOs are not carrying.

    Off duty or not, why are they not required to? I thought the job was one of those where, much like the military, you're never really completely off duty unless you're signed out on leave.
     
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    And had the cop brought his own gun the guy would have been stopped before he got to the restaurant to begin with. If you need a gun don't count on me bringing an extra for you.;)
     
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  24. MikeInOr

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    I have to make a conscious decision to go somewhere unarmed. If I am just running out of the house for a quick errand I grab my keys, wallet and pocket pistol (often an LCP but some times a DB9). It is just an automatic response now after carrying for the last ~30 years. If for some weird reason I just forget, there is always the truck gun or the car gun.

    My GF spends a lot more time deciding which shoes go best with her outfit than I spend deciding which pistol goes best with my outfit.
     
  25. Lo-Profile

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    Haven't gone anywhere unarmed in years where I can legally carry. I do have a lock-up box in my truck for while I'm in someplace I legally can't.
    I mostly ignore private " no guns " signs since I'll just leave if caught, in my State they can only call the police if you refuse to leave if asked.
     
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