C.R.Sam
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I totally concurr.
Some folks can get "in the zone" during practice and are able to nearly instantly adapt to a change in scenario.
Sam
Carrying while paintballing
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Some folks can get "in the zone" during practice and are able to nearly instantly adapt to a change in scenario.
Sam
I cannot believe the insidious anti-gun mentality that is rampant in this thread.
"You'll accidentally shoot someone."
"What kind of threats do you really anticipate."
"You'll hurt someone."
Did I accidentally log onto DU???
Zahc, do whatever you feel necessary. Personally, I wouldn't venture anywhere near the forest or wilderness without a firearm, ESPECIALLY if spending the night.
Unless you are overpowered by the firearm's powers and it makes you start shooting people when you should be paintballing them.
If you get so "into" the game that you forget its just a game and actually reach for your real weapon, IMO, you've got problems and shouldn't have been around firearms in the first place.
And the stories of training accidents among the military don't apply here.
We're talking apples and oranges; the military is doing real, combat-simulating exercises with their real weapons that can fire real bullets.
You are going to be playing a game, albeit a rather intense (and fun!) one with completely different weapons. Again, I say if you cannot separate the two in your mind and honestly fear drawing your actual weapon during a game you shouldn't be handling firearms in the first place.
I went paintballing this weekend and the thought of real firearms never even entered my mind, contrary to what the antis would have you believe.
Guess the tinfoil hat I was wearing shielded me from the guns magical brain-control.
"You'll accidentally shoot someone."
"What kind of threats do you really anticipate."
"You'll hurt someone."
Did I accidentally log onto DU???
Zahc, do whatever you feel necessary. Personally, I wouldn't venture anywhere near the forest or wilderness without a firearm, ESPECIALLY if spending the night.
Unless you are overpowered by the firearm's powers and it makes you start shooting people when you should be paintballing them.
If you get so "into" the game that you forget its just a game and actually reach for your real weapon, IMO, you've got problems and shouldn't have been around firearms in the first place.
And the stories of training accidents among the military don't apply here.
We're talking apples and oranges; the military is doing real, combat-simulating exercises with their real weapons that can fire real bullets.
You are going to be playing a game, albeit a rather intense (and fun!) one with completely different weapons. Again, I say if you cannot separate the two in your mind and honestly fear drawing your actual weapon during a game you shouldn't be handling firearms in the first place.
I went paintballing this weekend and the thought of real firearms never even entered my mind, contrary to what the antis would have you believe.
Guess the tinfoil hat I was wearing shielded me from the guns magical brain-control.
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Remind me not to play paintball with DrJones who confuses self-policing with forced policing. Who also fails to recognize the difference between having to go to the grocery store possibly in a bad neighborhood with voluntarily playing a game. And who also ignores, and it appears to be only because of his tactical paintball experience, the lessons taught by those who run and have participated in simulations. And let us not forget doesn't understand that difference between not confusing pulling out your wallet to pay for the subway and aiming at "combatants" and firing non-lethal rounds in a combat simulation makes some of us wary about mixing the two.
Keith
Member
He's in Ohio fer crissakes! What is he going to run into - an angry rabbit? And do you think some two-legged predator is going to hassle twenty or thirty strange looking dudes running around in the woods wearing camo?
Keith
Keith
Drjones,
Nope, you're at THR not DU. Regardless of what the Brady Bunch would have you believe, safety is not anti-gun. In fact an accident on a paintball field would give them ammo to go after shooters and paintballers with.
Comparisons between military training and paintball are not apples and oranges when it comes to an issue like mixing real weapons with paintball markers. If it became common for live weapons to be carried on the paintball field, sooner or later there would be an accident. It will happen.
Tell me, were you armed when you played paintball this past weekend? What was your criteria for recognizing a situation that would call for you to employ your firearm instead of your paintball marker? How would you know for certain that the threat was a real threat and not part of the scenario? Do you think you are fast enough to bring your real weapon to bear by the time you figured out that it was a real attack and not part of the game?
Jeff
Nope, you're at THR not DU. Regardless of what the Brady Bunch would have you believe, safety is not anti-gun. In fact an accident on a paintball field would give them ammo to go after shooters and paintballers with.
Comparisons between military training and paintball are not apples and oranges when it comes to an issue like mixing real weapons with paintball markers. If it became common for live weapons to be carried on the paintball field, sooner or later there would be an accident. It will happen.
Tell me, were you armed when you played paintball this past weekend? What was your criteria for recognizing a situation that would call for you to employ your firearm instead of your paintball marker? How would you know for certain that the threat was a real threat and not part of the scenario? Do you think you are fast enough to bring your real weapon to bear by the time you figured out that it was a real attack and not part of the game?
Jeff
Greg L
Member
I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned that this is in Ohio, that lovely state to the north of me that doesn't allow the peons to run around with a concealed weapon in the first place let alone while out in the woods chasing others with a different type of firearm. Your only legal option would be to have it in plain sight on your hip. I for one certainly wouldn't be all that enthusiastic about playing in that game.
Greg
Greg
Cool down, Jones. You started off as a know-nothing know-it-all on TFL, but you learned fast. You've earned some respect. Don't go back where you started.
When Jeff speaks, it's good to listen. It's something called EXPERIENCE. Doesn't mean he's always right. But it DOES mean his words should be carefully considered.
He just might know something you don't.
When Jeff speaks, it's good to listen. It's something called EXPERIENCE. Doesn't mean he's always right. But it DOES mean his words should be carefully considered.
He just might know something you don't.
bogie
Member
Jones, it's common sense. People get zoned. Heavily psyched. That's why I'd prefer that none of the other players have nothing on 'em. INCLUDING small pocket knives, etc.
When I was a kid, there was a civil war battle reenactment held every year. The "soldiers" would camp out, the boy scouts would camp out, etc., and since boy scouts tend to be... well... rambunctious, a lot of the "soldiers" wouldn't get a lot of sleep before midnight, due to "enemy" infiltrators. Dang, but it was FUN droppin' a tent on top of 'em... But I digress...
Anywho, one of the "soldiers" captured several boy scouts, and as prisoners of war, they were lined up to be interrogated. As one of the "soldiers" was walking in front of 'em, he drew his cap & ball revolver, pointed it at 'em, and pulled the trigger. It had a black powder blank charge in it, and it blinded one of the scouts.
DO NOT have any weapon on a playing field.
When I was a kid, there was a civil war battle reenactment held every year. The "soldiers" would camp out, the boy scouts would camp out, etc., and since boy scouts tend to be... well... rambunctious, a lot of the "soldiers" wouldn't get a lot of sleep before midnight, due to "enemy" infiltrators. Dang, but it was FUN droppin' a tent on top of 'em... But I digress...
Anywho, one of the "soldiers" captured several boy scouts, and as prisoners of war, they were lined up to be interrogated. As one of the "soldiers" was walking in front of 'em, he drew his cap & ball revolver, pointed it at 'em, and pulled the trigger. It had a black powder blank charge in it, and it blinded one of the scouts.
DO NOT have any weapon on a playing field.
Jesse H
Member
It's like dry-firing in a room away from live ammo.
Common sense safety.
Common sense safety.
El Tejon
Member
Jesse, excellent analogy.
Dr., injuries defeat the purpose of training. Plenty of examples of injuries and fatalities from activities such as this.
Dr., injuries defeat the purpose of training.
Plenty of examples of injuries and fatalities from activities such as this.Not yet! maybe one day...
What about in other states?
Did I also mention that I have not reached the magical age of 21, and therefore do not need to protect myself? I said on the first page that I wouldn't do it, people missed that part and are still trying to convince ME not to. It's for discussion folks. Sigh.
But, it seems so far that most think that carrying while paintballing is a bad idea (I agree for now).
P.S.
markers are not firearms.
And I was serious about the mountain lion part. I'm not worried in the least though. 2 years ago someone few miles from my place had a puma chained to a tree in their front yard in sight of the road. And to this day about 10 miles away there is a black bear in a chainlink fence at someone's place.
Just so you know:
It does happen, even in Ohio:
Residents encounter mountain lion
By JANEL HARTMAN, T-L Staff Writer and SANDY FITZGERALD, T-L Copy Editor
MOUNTAIN lions are extinct in Ohio, but several St. Clairsville area residents encountered one during the weekend, including a man who shot the large animal which had attacked his dog and lunged at him.
According to a report from the Belmont County Sheriff's Office, at about 5:24 p.m. Sunday, Brian Conway, who had been working at a farm on Shepherdstown Road, St. Clairsville, advised that a mountain lion had attacked his dog and lunged at him. Conway reported to the sheriff's office that he had shot and killed the animal, which was left in the woods by the farm. The animal was believed to have been a pet, because it had been declawed.
The shooting came after a weekend in which several people, including two St. Clairsville teen-agers armed with only a camera, came face-to-face with the lion.
Brandon Coe, 16, and his brother, Brian, 17, had heard from their uncle that a mountain lion had been spotted in the area so they rode out on their all-terrain vehicles to see if they could find it and take a picture of it.
When they found the large creature, it was lying down in the grass. Brandon said he and his brother tossed a rock at it to try to get it to stand up and run away.
"I told my brother to stand up on the bike and take its picture," Brandon Coe said. When the flash on the camera went off, the lion stood up.
He said his ATV was coasting backward and the lion was coming at him, so he got off the vehicle.
Brandon said the lion was "standing there staring at me, and I got out my knife." He said the knife was only a small pocketknife that he takes into the woods with him.
After about three minutes - during which the mountain lion was only about 7 feet away - the animal ran away. Brandon said the mountain lion was hissing at him and his brother during the entire incident.
"I don't know what I would have done if it had jumped on me," he said. The boys' grandmother, Opal Donley, said the boys took pictures of the large cat so people would believe they saw it.
"They didn't figure anyone would believe them and that's why they took the pictures," Donley said. "Brandon was afraid to run. There were a number of kids there and my son wanted his wife to get his gun, but she was so scared that she couldn't move."
Donley explained that she and her husband at first thought the boys had seen a bobcat, but it was clear from the pictures that it was a mountain lion.
"We called the sheriff's office and they referred us to the game warden. We're still waiting for him to call us back. Brandon wanted me to call the newspaper so that nobody would get hurt."
Meanwhile, Conway said he first saw the mountain lion on Saturday as he and several other people were traveling to a nearby farm to bale hay. He said he saw the mountain lion in the weeds, and he and his co-workers stopped to look at the animal. Conway said his dog was scared by the large animal and jumped off the four-wheeler he was driving. He said chaos ensued, and his dog was in the mouth of the mountain lion.
"It had the dog in its mouth, and the front legs were hanging out one side of his mouth and the back legs were hanging out of the other side," Conway added. "His whole body was in its mouth. It rolled over on its back, and tried to tear the dog up. It started to run with the dog. It dropped the dog, and then jumped back into the woods."
Conway said he does not know why, but the mountain lion, which was 6 feet long and weighed about 90 pounds, released his dog. He said he went about 400 yards down a trail with his co-workers before they realized the mountain lion was following them.
"We went 400 yards into the trail to kind of evaluate what we saw," Conway said. "I went back down the trail, and it was there. It was following us. I slowly put the dog on the bike and took off."
Conway said he returned to the farm for work on Sunday. However, this time he brought along a shotgun and a pistol in case he again saw the mountain lion. He said although he was more prepared than the previous day, he was still nervous.
"Sunday, I went back out," Conway said. "I had an old single-shot 12 gauge. I had one shell. It was bird shell, and I thought, 'it's better than nothing.' We had to get the hay up before it rained. I left the dog in the camper.
"They told me to see if the lower fields were dry yet," Conway added. "I went over there and told my buddy to come with me. I knew it was there, but I didn't think it would bother us. I was close to the same area where the incident happened Saturday, and I took my gun and walked down there. I was coming back and I could see fresh paw prints. I was nervous. I was getting on my bike and he (friend) said 'here it comes,' and it was barreling."
Conway said the mountain lion jumped out of the woods and landed about an equal distance between himself and his friend. He said the animal then attacked him before he shot it. Conway said one shot did not kill it, and he then had to use his pistol.
"He jumped off the bank and landed between us," Conway said. "We were about 10 feet apart. I said, 'Don't move, I don't want to shoot.'
"I got off, and tried to shoo him away. He turned and came toward me. He kept coming slowly toward me like a house cat approaches a bird. I backed up, and he lunged right at me.
"When I shot, his front paws were off the ground, and his claws were six inches from my barrel," Conway added.
More than one shot was required, and after the incident, Conway called the Belmont County Sheriff's Office, and a deputy arrived at the scene. He said he is still shaken by the situation. Conway said the animal was beautiful, but he did not feel he had any other alternative.
"I couldn't sleep at all night last night," Conway said. "I gave it every opportunity to leave. I didn't want to shoot it. The deputy said it was at the tip of the barrel. I am not proud or happy for doing it. It was a beautiful creature. I had a split second to make that decision. It was hungry, and there was no fear of man at all.
"I was shaking yesterday, and I am shaking right now talking about it," Conway added. "It was like something out of a movie." END
Just happen last week.
Art
It does happen, even in Ohio:
Residents encounter mountain lion
By JANEL HARTMAN, T-L Staff Writer and SANDY FITZGERALD, T-L Copy Editor
MOUNTAIN lions are extinct in Ohio, but several St. Clairsville area residents encountered one during the weekend, including a man who shot the large animal which had attacked his dog and lunged at him.
According to a report from the Belmont County Sheriff's Office, at about 5:24 p.m. Sunday, Brian Conway, who had been working at a farm on Shepherdstown Road, St. Clairsville, advised that a mountain lion had attacked his dog and lunged at him. Conway reported to the sheriff's office that he had shot and killed the animal, which was left in the woods by the farm. The animal was believed to have been a pet, because it had been declawed.
The shooting came after a weekend in which several people, including two St. Clairsville teen-agers armed with only a camera, came face-to-face with the lion.
Brandon Coe, 16, and his brother, Brian, 17, had heard from their uncle that a mountain lion had been spotted in the area so they rode out on their all-terrain vehicles to see if they could find it and take a picture of it.
When they found the large creature, it was lying down in the grass. Brandon said he and his brother tossed a rock at it to try to get it to stand up and run away.
"I told my brother to stand up on the bike and take its picture," Brandon Coe said. When the flash on the camera went off, the lion stood up.
He said his ATV was coasting backward and the lion was coming at him, so he got off the vehicle.
Brandon said the lion was "standing there staring at me, and I got out my knife." He said the knife was only a small pocketknife that he takes into the woods with him.
After about three minutes - during which the mountain lion was only about 7 feet away - the animal ran away. Brandon said the mountain lion was hissing at him and his brother during the entire incident.
"I don't know what I would have done if it had jumped on me," he said. The boys' grandmother, Opal Donley, said the boys took pictures of the large cat so people would believe they saw it.
"They didn't figure anyone would believe them and that's why they took the pictures," Donley said. "Brandon was afraid to run. There were a number of kids there and my son wanted his wife to get his gun, but she was so scared that she couldn't move."
Donley explained that she and her husband at first thought the boys had seen a bobcat, but it was clear from the pictures that it was a mountain lion.
"We called the sheriff's office and they referred us to the game warden. We're still waiting for him to call us back. Brandon wanted me to call the newspaper so that nobody would get hurt."
Meanwhile, Conway said he first saw the mountain lion on Saturday as he and several other people were traveling to a nearby farm to bale hay. He said he saw the mountain lion in the weeds, and he and his co-workers stopped to look at the animal. Conway said his dog was scared by the large animal and jumped off the four-wheeler he was driving. He said chaos ensued, and his dog was in the mouth of the mountain lion.
"It had the dog in its mouth, and the front legs were hanging out one side of his mouth and the back legs were hanging out of the other side," Conway added. "His whole body was in its mouth. It rolled over on its back, and tried to tear the dog up. It started to run with the dog. It dropped the dog, and then jumped back into the woods."
Conway said he does not know why, but the mountain lion, which was 6 feet long and weighed about 90 pounds, released his dog. He said he went about 400 yards down a trail with his co-workers before they realized the mountain lion was following them.
"We went 400 yards into the trail to kind of evaluate what we saw," Conway said. "I went back down the trail, and it was there. It was following us. I slowly put the dog on the bike and took off."
Conway said he returned to the farm for work on Sunday. However, this time he brought along a shotgun and a pistol in case he again saw the mountain lion. He said although he was more prepared than the previous day, he was still nervous.
"Sunday, I went back out," Conway said. "I had an old single-shot 12 gauge. I had one shell. It was bird shell, and I thought, 'it's better than nothing.' We had to get the hay up before it rained. I left the dog in the camper.
"They told me to see if the lower fields were dry yet," Conway added. "I went over there and told my buddy to come with me. I knew it was there, but I didn't think it would bother us. I was close to the same area where the incident happened Saturday, and I took my gun and walked down there. I was coming back and I could see fresh paw prints. I was nervous. I was getting on my bike and he (friend) said 'here it comes,' and it was barreling."
Conway said the mountain lion jumped out of the woods and landed about an equal distance between himself and his friend. He said the animal then attacked him before he shot it. Conway said one shot did not kill it, and he then had to use his pistol.
"He jumped off the bank and landed between us," Conway said. "We were about 10 feet apart. I said, 'Don't move, I don't want to shoot.'
"I got off, and tried to shoo him away. He turned and came toward me. He kept coming slowly toward me like a house cat approaches a bird. I backed up, and he lunged right at me.
"When I shot, his front paws were off the ground, and his claws were six inches from my barrel," Conway added.
More than one shot was required, and after the incident, Conway called the Belmont County Sheriff's Office, and a deputy arrived at the scene. He said he is still shaken by the situation. Conway said the animal was beautiful, but he did not feel he had any other alternative.
"I couldn't sleep at all night last night," Conway said. "I gave it every opportunity to leave. I didn't want to shoot it. The deputy said it was at the tip of the barrel. I am not proud or happy for doing it. It was a beautiful creature. I had a split second to make that decision. It was hungry, and there was no fear of man at all.
"I was shaking yesterday, and I am shaking right now talking about it," Conway added. "It was like something out of a movie." END
Just happen last week.
Art
Pat_Rogers
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Jeff,
The facts are skewed a little.
A Marine from a Force Platoon shot and killed another Marine- a role player from the MEU- during a MILES exercise.
He was convicted of the crime- as well he should be.
He was negligent in removing live ammunition from his person- in this case frangibile- and deliverd an NSR into the chest of a 21 year old PFC.
The shooter got what he deserved, and the others in the chain of command took big hits.
This is the first incident of this type since the inception of the SOTG in 86. If it can happen to them, it will happen to paint ballers.
Those protesting the fact that firearms and ammunition don't mix remind me of the individual who had posted several "hero" pics of himself on TFL, facing uprange, with an AR and revolver, fingers on the triggers.
The sad fact is that some people shouldn't have guns. Or cars. Or children. Or oxygen.
Use common sense. Every time a negligent shooting occurs, we all suffer the consequences. If you cannot be aware enough to understand that firearms and force on force don't mix- anymore then firearms, cars, planes and so on don't mix with alchohol, maybe we need to more forcefully remind them of their responsibility to all of us.
The facts are skewed a little.
A Marine from a Force Platoon shot and killed another Marine- a role player from the MEU- during a MILES exercise.
He was convicted of the crime- as well he should be.
He was negligent in removing live ammunition from his person- in this case frangibile- and deliverd an NSR into the chest of a 21 year old PFC.
The shooter got what he deserved, and the others in the chain of command took big hits.
This is the first incident of this type since the inception of the SOTG in 86. If it can happen to them, it will happen to paint ballers.
Those protesting the fact that firearms and ammunition don't mix remind me of the individual who had posted several "hero" pics of himself on TFL, facing uprange, with an AR and revolver, fingers on the triggers.
The sad fact is that some people shouldn't have guns. Or cars. Or children. Or oxygen.
Use common sense. Every time a negligent shooting occurs, we all suffer the consequences. If you cannot be aware enough to understand that firearms and force on force don't mix- anymore then firearms, cars, planes and so on don't mix with alchohol, maybe we need to more forcefully remind them of their responsibility to all of us.
rayra
member
wow zahc, "Did I also mention that I have not reached the magical age of 21, and therefore do not need to protect myself?" - what a load of ungood doublethink in that sentence. "need?" Maybe make that "and am thus legally prevented from purchasing a handgun or being in sole possession of one, for use in protecting myself'.
Either your phrasing was very poor, or you are conciously / subconciously echoing the gun-grabbers rhetoric about 'Need'.
Either your phrasing was very poor, or you are conciously / subconciously echoing the gun-grabbers rhetoric about 'Need'.
auschip
Member
I think it was sarcasm.
Penforhire
Member
Carrying while playing paintball would be a horribly bad idea. I'll give you one big reason.
There is a high probablility someone will sneak up on you. There is a slight possibility the sneak will "make" your real gun (maybe your concealent got tattered or rides up in the woods) but would assume it was a great-looking paintball marker. They might be curious about it and be tempted to try a grab-and-shoot.
Believe me, not much is more satisfying in paintball than doing in the opposition with their own munitions or weapons. Don't say it will never happen. I've done it and had it done to me. I have less of a personal issue with knives, because everyone knows they are not part of the game.
But as a past field owner I would also exclude knives because emotions run extremely high and physical confrontation is possible (non-lethal partly BECAUSE of excluding real weapons).
There is a high probablility someone will sneak up on you. There is a slight possibility the sneak will "make" your real gun (maybe your concealent got tattered or rides up in the woods) but would assume it was a great-looking paintball marker. They might be curious about it and be tempted to try a grab-and-shoot.
Believe me, not much is more satisfying in paintball than doing in the opposition with their own munitions or weapons. Don't say it will never happen. I've done it and had it done to me. I have less of a personal issue with knives, because everyone knows they are not part of the game.
But as a past field owner I would also exclude knives because emotions run extremely high and physical confrontation is possible (non-lethal partly BECAUSE of excluding real weapons).
Joe Demko
Member
You don't need a gun. You need a lightning rod. You are far more likely to be struck by lightning than to be be mauled by a bear or puma in Ohio. Saints preserve us, what a ridiculous question to even be arguing over.
Ok.
I want to apologise if I came off as too harsh/condescending/offensive above, especially to those older and more experienced than I.
That said, I can clearly see why it is a bad idea for a soldier to carry live ammo during a military training exercise where everyone else is carrying blanks. That's obvious.
I don't see the big deal if someone is carrying during a paintball game.
To answer a question that was posed: "How would I know a threat was that and not part of the game and would I be able to get my gun fast enough."
Well, for one, if they someone approached me who looked out of place, wasn't carrying a paintball gun or whom I just don't know (assuming you at least recognize everyone who is playing), that would be a start.
Would I be fast enough?
Sure. Lots faster than running home or to the car and getting my gun. Again, this seems to me like anti logic. Not a flame, just my view.
I want to apologise if I came off as too harsh/condescending/offensive above, especially to those older and more experienced than I.
That said, I can clearly see why it is a bad idea for a soldier to carry live ammo during a military training exercise where everyone else is carrying blanks. That's obvious.
I don't see the big deal if someone is carrying during a paintball game.
To answer a question that was posed: "How would I know a threat was that and not part of the game and would I be able to get my gun fast enough."
Well, for one, if they someone approached me who looked out of place, wasn't carrying a paintball gun or whom I just don't know (assuming you at least recognize everyone who is playing), that would be a start.
Would I be fast enough?
Sure. Lots faster than running home or to the car and getting my gun. Again, this seems to me like anti logic. Not a flame, just my view.
I rest my case.
So let's say someone on the other team gets really worked up and attacks me. Let's even say he's way bigger and stronger.
Say he even gets one of his buddies backing him up, so its two-on-one.
Just because its during a paintball game, I shouldn't be able to carry the most effective means of self-defense? I should just take the beating?
I'm still not convinced I didn't stumble onto a mirror of DU....
Jesse H
Member
Ok Doc, I'll bite.
Let's say somebody on the opposing team, and a few of his buddies were upset and wanted a piece of you. Would it not be safe to assume that if there's an opposing team, you'd also have teammates of your own to aid you in de-escalating the situation. If nothing else, couldn't one run from the confrontation? Besides, you still have a paintball gun
Carrying concealed during paintball would be a major PITA. I know that the few times I've played, I'm rolling around in the dirt and grass. Crawling on my hands and knees, etc. The only practical means of carry wouldn't be concealed.
Even then, I don't think it'd be safe to have a real pistol during a paintball match...and I'm one of those people that always carry wherever legal.
Let's say somebody on the opposing team, and a few of his buddies were upset and wanted a piece of you. Would it not be safe to assume that if there's an opposing team, you'd also have teammates of your own to aid you in de-escalating the situation. If nothing else, couldn't one run from the confrontation? Besides, you still have a paintball gun
Carrying concealed during paintball would be a major PITA. I know that the few times I've played, I'm rolling around in the dirt and grass. Crawling on my hands and knees, etc. The only practical means of carry wouldn't be concealed.
Even then, I don't think it'd be safe to have a real pistol during a paintball match...and I'm one of those people that always carry wherever legal.
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