Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by vincyr, Feb 13, 2020.
.40 S&W. can't stand the snappy recoil.
Boy, this is a tough one. There are many cartridges which over lap or even duplicate each other. I suppose .458 Win. Mag. because it recoils so hard and ammo is pricey, even to reload. I have a Model 70 in this caliber that I bought at a farm sale back in the '80s; the owner used it for elk hunting. It is a fine rifle but I haven't shot it this century. But if I ever get charged by an elephant.......
It doesn't happen to be a pre-64, does it? When I was 14 years old, I spent many, many hours drooling over the Model 70 "African" 458 Win Mags in the 1962 Winchester catalogs in my folk's country store.
I still have one of those catalogs. And I'd still like to have one of those rifles.
My dad used to have a Winchester .458 Win mag that had softer recoil than my .338 Win mag which had a muzzle brake on it.
Regret my folks selling it when my dad went into a nursing home.
Hand me a gun in any caliber, and I will shoot it and love every minute of it!
I really can’t say that I dislike any, but there are some I like more then others.
But I do have the unpleasant memory of shooting a Winchester 94 Big Bore chambered in 458 Rogers Express.
The Rogers Express was a 458 Winchester Magnum cartridge cut down short enough to function in a 94 big bore. The rifle was custom built at the Winchester factory for a Delta Airline pilot named Rogers, who was a friend of my father in law.
My God did that rifle had some recoil. I only shot a few rounds and my shoulder hurt for days.
At the time Rogers lived in British Columbia. I asked why did he have the rifle built. His reply was that every time he got off his horse to piss, a bear would come out of the woods. I told him that he should just learn to piss from the horse.
I dislike 9mm and 5.56/223 the most. During my stint in the military we adopted the 5.56 after using 7.62s, and I disliked the caliber ever since. I dislike 9mm mostly because it reminds me of kids eating tide pods.
380 ACP. More expensive than 9mm, less powerful, and made for small guns that are difficult to shoot well. I haven’t seen a gun in 380 that is enjoyable to shoot or very accurate.
I am at the range a fair bit in the summer months where people shoot all kinds of center fire rifles (obviously) but one day in particular I remember a guy bringing along his 25-06 and I dont know why but it was the loudest most obnoxious report I had ever heard. Strange, I know it's not the biggest or loudest but it seemed especially obnoxiously loud...
These are also my thoughts. Never liked .40 but I wouldnt want to be shot by it. I always have the desire to shoot them when they show up at the range for some strange reason. Probably because I never shot them as well as others and I want to overcome my shortcomings with it....
I think sometimes we just dislike things for no quantifiable reason other than maybe a friend or uncle disparaged something a long time ago and it influenced your thinking. 9mm will bounce right off a windshield kind of thing. I remember a game warden dispatching a deer my mother hit when I was 8 or 9, he was telling my father his Duty weapon, a Glock 9mm handgun was a piece of junk and to never get one.
A 20" barrel will tone down the noise.
At the lighter-bullet end, the .223 is smaller, cheaper, lighter, kicks and barks less.
At the heavier-bullet end, the .30-30 costs the same with similar effective range but less recoil and less blast. The .308 costs the same with only slightly more recoil, slightly more blast and significantly more range. And both .30-30 and .308 use .30-caliber bullets, which have larger selection for handloading than .24/6 mm.
The .243 seems to be marketed as a good hunting gun for kids or smaller women, based on the guns being sold in the caliber. I gues if it works for them it works. But it is relentlessly average at just about everything.
Interesting thread. Just goes to show why there are so many cartridges on the market. Some of the cartridges others don't like are among my favorites, and I'm sure the inverse is true, too.
When it comes to firearms there isn’t much I don’t like, but I don’t see the point of the 25acp and don’t/won’t own one ... I’m not big on 40S&W but I fell into a deal on 2K rounds so I bought a CZ, then a Glock 23 that also had a 9mm barrel.
Years ago I bought 2 cases of 1440 rounds Turkish 8mm for $69/case and a couple of Turk Mauser, the ammo is really hot and after 20 rounds my shoulder aches for over a week, I ended up pulling it apart and weighed the loads which ranged from 45-60grains, I knocked them down to 42.5 and comfortable & accuracy is now acceptable.
I want one of the Turkish wood crates, if you still have them.
I don't like the 380. Just too painful to shoot in the size gun that they are generally made for like the Ruger lcp.
Sorry, I'd love to contribute to your collection but only one survived shipping, the other got busted up ... bad. I dont remember who the shipper was (about 24-25 years ago) but it wasn't UPS or FedEx. It was so bad the shipper tried putting it back together with strapping tape, but one end was missing so I didnt keep it. A few of the missing bandoliers showed up the next day in a separate cardboard box.
That’s so sad.
Turkish Mausers are my favorite. Would love to find a ammo crate to go with them.
I too find the Turkish 8mm to be very stout. I’ll be down loading it to shoot it also.
FWIW Hornady published at the time that 357 Sig was the most ballistically uniform cartridge they had ever tested.
I cant hate on a cartridge. But I really like my hot 25's and 27's.
As a cancer survivor and someone who is medically restricted, the ONLY gun I was allowed to use for 6 months was my .22lr. Is it the best, NO. Will it work in a pinch, better than a pointy stick. After losing 40% of my muscles I gotta say learning to shoot again is really hard! Snappy rounds with lots of recoil are no longer fun or in the mix. I want to thank everyone that pointed out ways to make softer shooting full size guns and loads. My apologies to the OP. Anything above 32 Long Colt!
Cartridges that are duds. I like the "BOOM!" when they work like they should!
Left out, but not forgotten. Never said I liked ALL cartridges made before 1915, just don't like those made after. Did forget the 45 Colt though. Anyway, too many responses about the arm in which the round was experienced, not about the inherent lack-of-goodness of the round.
Try it in a CZ 83 or a Berreta 84 pistol. The Bersa thunder 380 is similar. Much nicer to shoot in those guns. Of course, you can get 9mm pistols of the same size these days that shoot just as well (Sig P365).
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