‘Something else going on here’
”Hmmmm. The plot thickens. I just did the paperclip test on a couple dozen cases and they were all fine. So I took out the ole Wilson case gauge, and most of my fired, unsized cases fit in the case gauge all the way. (One stopped way short, but I assume that was due to case diameter, since it stopped short a whole couple tenths!) I can't imagine that would be the case with too much headspace? Some of them even slide in by gravity, flush with the gauge. So maybe there's something else going on? I'd be happy to find out it's just a bad batch of brass or plain bad luck”
”I've only shot 200 factory rounds, no issues. It's an MSAR. Does a go no-go gauge work on a semi auto? It's kinda hard to tell exactly when the bolt is all the way closed. Learned early on that you don't want to ride the charging handle at all when you load it. I have noticed that I can make my reloads out to 2.95" (limit of the mags) and they still feed and shoot fine”
“Does a go no-go gauge work?” No, there is no such thing, it is either or, it is a go-gage or it is a no go-gage, I am the only one that can modify a go-gage to a go to-infinity gage, not necessary however because I check head space on any chamber at least two different ways without a go, no or beyond gage, other methods are faster and more accurate, nothing but vanity would drive a reloader to measurements below .001 thousands, then there is memory, recovery, jump back, spring back or pop back, and some get so hung up on that I am surprised they get any reloading done, and if I spent my money on a chamber gage it would be a no go-gage, explaining the ration for that decision is/would be a waste of time.
Sounds cute “I use a head space gage” “You need a head space gage” “Check your head space with a head space gage” In the real world I do not get into this type of conversations, I do not deal with anyone that does not know the go-gage head space gage will chamber, meaning everyone that chambers a go-gage length head space gage knows the chamber is at least long enough for the gage, chambering the go-gage does not tell the user if the chamber has excessive head space. the go-gage will not chamber in a short chamber that will allow minimum length/full length sized cases to chamber, again, I determine the length of the chamber first, I am the fan of transfers and standards, and verifying, I am the fan of verifying.
I do not have less than 4,000 223 cases, new/unfired, once fired, sized, sized and primed and fired with primers, if at the end of the day something did not chamber I am able to go back and determine when the problem started, clips? Hundred of clips, they do not take up much space and the box is full.
The Wilson Case Gage: The user of the gage is the limiting factor, most on this forum refer to it as a ‘drop in gage’, If I take the time to use it I get the maximum use out of it, the Wilson has a ‘DATUM’ refered to by the the brain trust as a line, any how the Wilson case gage does all the work and makes it simple for beginners and the more experienced reloader, the problem most reloaders never get past the beginning status of reloading. With the case setting on the datum in the gage the length of the case can be measured with a straight edge (Wilson refers to the straight edge as a steel rule). Flush with the gage is .000 as in minimum length.full length sized, when using the Wilson gage I use straight edge and the companion to the press, the feeler gage.
There is another thread about a chamber with a bolt face problem, to determine if the case head is square with the case, again, use a straight edge (steel ‘small’ rule) and if you want accurate readings use the feeler gage, if the case head is square with the case body the straight edge will have a larger gap on one side than the other.
Paper clip, punched primers, case head separation, insipient case head separation and then there is catastrophic failure.
F. Guffey