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Case Headstamp Identification...

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by Shaner, Dec 31, 2007.

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  1. Shaner

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    After a few minutes of searching (more like pilfering) the older threads, I thought I'd crank up this one to provide members here some information as to the origin of cases due to headstamp ID. This may have been done in the past, so forgive me for I have sinned...:)

    Please correct me or clarify the ones that I post:

    R-P=Remington-Peters
    WCC=Western Cartridge Company
    GFL=Fiocchi. The link here was an interesting one that I dug up. I was wondering the same thing about this one...

    http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=314366&highlight=brass+headstamp

    *I*=Independence
    CCI=? Help me out folks...
    Amerc=Again, time to bail me out. Forgot what the origin is...All I know is that IMO, it's junk. Had bad experiences with it...:cuss:
    FC=Federal
    W-W=Winchester-Western

    I know there's more. Thought I'd quit while my brain isn't working and fellow members can show their knowledge prowess....:D
     
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  2. Mal H

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    CCI = Cascade Cartridge, Inc.
    Amerc = American Ammunition Co.

    Yep, many hundreds more.
    Here's a good site on the subject: http://cartridgecollectors.org/
    Click on Headstamp Codes on the left.
     
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  4. rcmodel

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    No, that's really:
    Remington - Peters

    Remington is usually REM.

    No, that's really:
    Western Cartridge Company.

    Winchester is usually WIN.

    There are many others.

    So many others!
    So many variations through the years!
    So little time left to remember it all!
    :eek:


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    PMC=Pan Metal Corporation

    (I believe)

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    PMC = "Precision Made Cartridges" (Eldorado Cartridge Company)
    F-C = Federal
     
  7. Shaner

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    Thanks, everyone. I edited my OP to reflect the correct acronyms.

    Mal and Magnum, thanks for the links. That's good reading...
     
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    Shane, if you don't mind, could you build a master list in your first post? Maybe just keep adding information as it comes in? This could be handy.
     
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    CCI = Cascade Cartridges, Inc.

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    PMC = "Precision Made Cartridges" (Eldorado Cartridge Company)

    Actually, according to the International Ammunition Corporation, they claim it's just Remington. On PMC it never stated the acronym is such. Only Pan Metal Corp and Patton & Morgan Corp.:confused:

    Well, I must say we're both right. It's still made by Winchester which the parent company is Olin, which makes both...
     
  11. Shaner

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    Sure can, but with some caveats. I want to make sure anyone that challenges the abbreviation has the chance to discuss so that I won't be changing it on a whim (like I am now:eek:). Also, I looked at Mal's provided link and the list is gigantic. With that, I'll be happy to include all that aren't real rare in these parts...

    And, one other thing. I, by no means, know it all. More less, I don't know near what most others here do. So, be sure to take my posts as a reference, not gospel.;)

    Deal?
     
  12. rcmodel

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    Whatever you think.

    Back in the day, Winchester made ammo, and Western Cartridge Company made ammo.
    Then Winchester bought out Western. They were still marking WCC & WIN on the two different brands of ammo until recently, unless they still do.
    There was also a REM-UMC headstamp.
    UMC = Union Metallic Cartridge, another Remington acquisition.

    Remington made ammo, and Peters Cartridge Company made ammo.
    Remington bought out Peters and still sold both brands in different boxes with the R-P head-stamp on both.

    During WWII, Remington ammo was head-stamped RA or REM-UMC in the case of .38 Special ammo.

    Western Cartridge Co. was WCC.
    Winchester was W.R.A.

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    Funny thing about "PMC". The company has almost always been associated with the Korean ammunition industry (either made in or owned by). I believe the original name was Patton, Morgan Corp. then Pusan Metal Corporation/Company (maybe Pan Metal Corp.). Then it was sold to Eldorado and they changed the name to fit the established initials - "Precison Made Cartridges". It was later bought by another Korean company, Poongsan who kept the "Precison Made Cartridges" name.


    Pretty sure, UMC has always been a Remington brand name after the merger of the two independant companies.
     
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    You are exactly right!

    I had a senior moment while I was typing that!

    I went back and edited it to be correct.

    Thanks!

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  16. Shaner

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    Ummm, no. It's whatever information this link provided. It may not be THE source, but it is one...

    http://cartridgecollectors.org/headstampcodes.htm

    Soooo...wouldn't that be Remington?

    When did this happen? I've always known it to be Remington's holding...
     
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    WCC is good stuff. I like to use it when I can find it in a decent quantity. The last WCC I've acquired is all WCC 04.
     
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    Who made the W-W that I have?
     
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    W-W = Winchester-Western
     
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    Thanks <SLV>
     
  21. Shaner

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    There, added to the OP. Thanks, SLV...
     
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    NPA = National Police Agency, I believe, Taiwan. Made by different companies for them.
     
  23. Shaner

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    Thanks, Warren. I tried to add that to my OP, but I no longer have an edit option...:confused:
     
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