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Catastrophic Failure, ALL CARACAL OWNERS PLEASE READ AND BE SAFE

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by caracalproblem, Feb 14, 2013.

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  1. mr.trooper

    mr.trooper Member

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    How do you get two perfectly clean, non symmetrical, breaks in a slide with no obvious inclusions?

    I'm not going to point any fingers, but my first reaction to the close ups was that the breaks look intentional. That is just my uneducated opinion.
     
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  2. armarsh

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    I don't see any evidence of that. It would take quite a bit of planning and effort to destroy that slide without making any marks.
     
  3. nwilliams

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    With a all the Caracal's that have been sold up to this point I think if this kind of thing was a common occurrence with this gun it would be well known.

    When a gun goes Kaboom it's usually a result of bad ammo. I had a kaboom a while back using Chinese ammo in my AR.

    Not saying this incident didn't really happen however it wouldn't persuade me from buying another Caracal in the future.
     
  4. FIVETWOSEVEN

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    To me it sounds like all the Chinese ammo was overloaded but not to KABOOM specs. That last round was the bird that broke the camels back.
     
  5. HKGuns

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    I won't speculate on the failure. I do wish your brother a speedy recovery and am sorry to hear of his injury. I hope Carcal will do the right thing in this case.

    It was interesting to read the thread over on PAC guns. For example,Weedpimp says chicks like scars!
     
  6. ezypikns

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    They may prove to be fine weapons......someday.

    In the meantime, I believe I'll follow a previous poster's advice and.....

     
  7. cactus02

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    It sounds like the early Beretta 92 failures due to metalurgy in the slide. New berettas have an oversize pin head to retain a broken slide. P. S. Beretta found the problem was slides made for the French were of different specification steel.
     
  8. PabloJ

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    No kidding. I would wear face shield and good pair of gloves. Thank God for 'Ove Glove made with Kevlar & Nomex by Dupont'.
     
  9. bds

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    Looks like Caracal has responded to this incident - http://www.caracal-usa.com/press/Recall-Notice-Caracal-Model-C-Pistol/

     
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    They have concluded their investigation and determined a limited number of slides were improperly heat treated - http://www.caracal-usa.com/press/Caracal-Model-C-Recall-Notice/

     
  11. Gtscotty

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    I guess I missed this thread the first time around, the pics on page six of the original thread screamed brittle fracture. No signs of plastic deformation and the grain boundaries have that velvety un-tempered look. Good to see Carcal's standing up and doing a recall, hopefully the guy on this thread that "ring tested" his slide gets the memo and sends that bad boy in.
     
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