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CCI CB longs and CCI quiet ammo rimfire

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Master Blaster, Sep 17, 2016.

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  1. kingmt

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    OK
    Maybe it won't be such a slow death then. Lol
     
  2. Speedo66

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    Are you talking Russian Wolf steel, or brass cased Taiwanese Wolf Gold?
     
  3. mjsdwash

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    Russian steel case wolf. The green stuff with the crappy "polymer" coating. I assume its because its easier to just copy US specs than try to convert it. They short cutting this ammo pretty good, as evidence by its low pressure. 55gr at around 2700fps is pretty weak. I tried loading it too full power to prove that its the low pressure lack of obturation, and carbon blowback that makes the cases stick. It ran fine at about 3050fps. But I think since they already make boxer primers, or at lease repackage them, they simple went to SAAMI data, and ran with it.
     
  4. Onmilo

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    I think CCi Quiet is going to replace the CB and CB Long offerings eventually if not already.
    The only .22 Short ammo I have seen in my area now is Lapua and they don't offer a CB type load.
     
  5. Carl N. Brown

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    CCI .22 CB Short are fun in my Marlin 39 marked ".22 S, L, LR"--magazine capacity of twenty five .22 short rounds for quiet target practice and it's fun to plink where the impact on the tin can target is louder than the muzzle report.

    Given the number of .22 Long Rifle Only repeating rifles and handguns out there that will not feed Short or Long, the .22 Long Rifle Quiet would often be the wisest choice for a reduced noise round and overall a better choice for close-in pest control.
    The CCI CB and Quiet rounds are all 710 feet per second muzzle velocity with low energy compared to standard velocity Short, Long, Long Rifle (typically 1100 fps depending on maker) or high velocity Long Rifle (around 1300 fps depending on maker). These low velocity rounds are specialty rounds mostly for low-noise training or target practice.
    _ CCI lists .22 Long Rifle Quiet-22 Segmented HP for Small Game loads.
    _ .22 Long Rifle Quiet-22 solid lead round nose is listed by CCI as Pest Control.
    _ Quiet-22 solid, CB Short, CB Long, are not listed by CCI as Small Game loads.
    CCI lists CB conical ball as reduced power/noise. I have always used CB rounds for quiet target practice and for safe firing with old black powder era .22s, especially those not marked for long rifle, and never used them with the intention of taking game or killing pests humanely.
    My son's gold standard in rimfires is
    CCI .22 Long Rifle Mini-Mag, 1260 feet per second velocity, 127 foot-pounds energy.
    Compare to:
    CCI .22 CB Short, 29 gr., 710 fps, 32 ft-lbs.
    CCI .22 CB Long, 29 gr., 710 fps, 32 ft-lbs.
    CCI .22 Long Rifle Quiet, 40 grain bullet, 710 fps, 45 ft-lbs.
    CCI .22 Long Rifle Quiet-22 Segmented HP, 40gr, 710 fps, 45 ft-lbs.
    (The Quiet Segmented is designed to break into three pieces on impact.)
    These are specialty rounds. Besides target practive, the .22 LR Quiet would be useful for pest control around a barn or farm house.
     
  6. tark

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    I love the quiets. They really ARE quiet, at least in a rifle. My Remington 550-1 spits em' out with regularity. Not so quiet in a revolver, loud enough to require ear protection. Don't know about a 22 auto pistol but they wouldn't cycle anyway so why try?
     
  7. Clark

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    CCI CB shorts are quiet as a BB gun in a 24" barrel rifle. I must hit raccoons in the brain.
    Eastern gray squirrels, rats, and crows I must hit in the chest, head, or neck. They get away with gut shots.
     
  8. Radagast

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    I have tried the CCI quiet 22 solids in my CZ. Reasonable groups. I also tried the Winchester 29 grain Long Z. Patterns like a shotgun. Both dropped rapidly, I would not shoot either past 50 yards.
     
  9. flightsimmer

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    This thread got me to thinking.
    When I was in my teens, I remember a 22 cal. semi auto rifle that a friend of mine had that would shoot Short's, longs and long rifle ammo. Not sure if it was tube or magazine fed.

    Anyway, you could shoot it semi auto or bolt action buy using the bolt button or you could push the bolt button in to lock the bolt in place so it would fire but not cycle.

    I don't remember ever having feeding problems with it. I just seem to remember that it had a really long barrel, but then, I was just a teen-ager.

    Anyone remember any rifle's like that?
     
  10. scaatylobo

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    Shot them side by side in back yard of small city I live in.
    Both are ok enough to get away with them.
    BUT the CB longs were a bit quieter,enough that the naked ear could discern.
     
  11. Clark

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    I just looked and looked in my collection until I found one, the Savage model 6 and Savage model 7 semi auto 22s.
    How could I forget. I just rebuilt one with parts from Numrich when the sear wore down on the model 7 and it went full auto.
     
  12. flightsimmer

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    Looking at the pictures online, it had to be the Savage model 6A.
    The model 6, 6A had the tube magazine and the model 7 had a (clip) magazine.
    Anyway, it worked wonderfully. Thanks for looking it up.
    If I ever find one I may buy it for old times sake.

    Another 22 that I had as a teen-ager was a Sheridan, Knockabout, a single shot tip up barrel handgun.
    I don't remember how I got it or what happened to it but I had a lot of fun with it.
     
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