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CCW AK-Pistol (7.62x39)

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Timradcliffe345, Apr 12, 2008.

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CCW an AK-Pistol (7.62x39)?

  1. Great idea!

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  2. I'm not so sure.

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  3. I don't think so!

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  1. Timradcliffe345

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    What are the pros and cons of an AK-style pistol (7.62x39) for CCW, be it a 8", 9.5" or 11" barrel ?

    Has or is anybody currently carrying something similar to this?



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    Would it be possible to later file with the ATF for a SBR tax stamp and add a stock for it?

    Thanks for all your opinions!

    God Bless America

    -TIM
     
  2. nalioth

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    Pros: None that I can see.
    Cons: It's huge and the mags can stick out.

    Your can submit a tax form for an SBR any time and convert one of these (others already have done so).
     
  3. BobTheTomato

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    Pros: Odds are free room and board for 10 to 20 if you need to use it for self defense.

    Cons: Odds are free room and board for 10 to 20 if you need to use it for self defense.
     
  4. vis-à-vis

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    I say go for it if that's what you want to do. Just make sure you your shoot is good. My biggest concern would be over penetration.
     
  5. strat81

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    Consider the fact that your jury most likely will NOT be completely made up of former KGB agents or current members of a semi-exclusive club out of Brighton Beach.
     
  6. Avenger29

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    Well, it isn't really suitable to concealed carry. It's a pretty big freakin weapon, even sans buttstock and with a short barrel. That big mag doesn't help any.

    Now, would it make a decent vehicle quick access gun? Probably. It would also make a good platform for conversion to SBR, as mentioned above.
     
  7. armoredman

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    I have to agree, might not play well in the jury box. if it the absolute only thing you own/have to use, that's differant, might make a dang handy RV gun, but as a dedicated CCW piece, well, not unless it's a Katrina situation, then most normal rules are "suspended", according to theory.
    Overpenetration might be a bit a problem...
     
  8. Prince Yamato

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    It's a pistol, so it should be legal to CCW. It would probably be better in place of a "truck gun". Or something of that sort. I wouldn't carry it under a trench coat or anything like that, except maybe to and from a range. It also depends on your state. If it's some place like Texas, then people may be more open to it. If it's CT or NY, then probably not.

    I think the self-defense thing is moot. If you unload an entire clip into somebody, then yes, you probably will have a hard time defending yourself in court. If you shoot the person twice, well so what? You shot them twice. Lots of people in America own AK-47s. You could make the same argument about shooting someone with a Sig with a threaded barrel. "The barrel was threaded for a silencer?! What?!?! Are you an assassin?"

    The NFA suggestion is good, BUT in many states, you can't CCW an NFA weapon.
     
  9. Justin

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    Pros: The bulk of such a weapon makes it likely you'll leave it home and carry weapon that's properly suited to CCW.

    Cons: Everyone's gonna ID you either as a CounterStrike kiddo, or a mall ninja wannabe.
     
  10. matt87

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    Bad ergonomics on the safety... how fast can you draw, reach across with the off hand, release safety, acquire sight picture and squeeze? Plus all the sticky-out bits like the front sight, and the charging handle. Oh, and if the worst should happen and you have to fire, imagine the report and flash... remember you wouldn't be wearing ear defs.

    Of course on the pro side is that this has a goodly amount of power. Plus you can probably find small capacity mags which are smaller than the 30-rounder.
     
  11. WoofersInc

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    I had added a Bushmaster pistol to my carry permit. I had done that because I was told that no way would it go through. It did go through since it is classified as a pistol. However I never did carry it and when I renewed my permit it was not added. I saw no reason to keep it on the permit. So it can be done. I just don't see myself having any need to do it again.
     
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    Keltec PLR-16 maybe, similar size but a little smaller and the caliber is .223/5.56
     
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    You'd probably get shot while pulling it out, pulling a mag out, inserting the mag, and racking the charging handle.
    You could leave the mag in but when standing to the side it would look like you are well endowed and happy to see everybody.
     
  14. SageMonkey

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    Some states limit the size and / or weight of a ccw piece.

    I can see it as a handy woods gun ending up under a poncho, or in a SHTF situation, but its not really workable for everyday ccw.
     
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    pros: it'll scare the crap out of the criminals
    cons: it'll scare the crap out of police, your mom, and the prosecutor
     
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    This is some kind of late April Fool's joke, right?

    Honestly, I've never seen why anyone would want an AK pistol. It seems to me you're getting the worst of both worlds - the bulk of a rifle with the (relative) inaccuracy of a pistol.
     
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    I think it would be a good idea... if you lived in Liberia.
     
  18. M2 Carbine

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    If I was still on the road I'd probably have my AK pistol, AR pistol or Kel Tec PLR in the vehicle.

    Not interested in carrying it though.

    The AK pistol is a big tank of a gun but it is almost as accurate and powerful as the rifle.

    The .223 pistols are much lighter and generally more accurate.
     
  19. The Wiry Irishman

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    Does Milt Sparks make an IWB for it?

    My friend has one. They're tons of dumb fun, but of no practical use. I kept joking that I wanted to borrow it to shoot the centerfire portion on the Indoor State bullseye championships.

    Decided to go with the 1911 instead.
     
  20. PTK

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    For giggles (and on the way to the range) I've carried my PLR-16. With a 10 round magazine, it hides comfortably under a light windbreaker.
     
  21. JCMAG

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    :eek: As much I as I would love to cheer you on for choosing so ambitious a concealed carry weapon, I cannot in good faith.

    Unless you feel a definite need for some serious protection, the bulk alone would be, well, balking. Stuffing that fierce puppy IWB is going to print more than a surprise Harry Potter sequel. :uhoh:
     
  22. The Lone Haranguer

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    What will you use for a cover garment? All I can think of is something like a trench coat or Aussie "duster" coat. That might look a little out of place. ;) More seriously, it might be seen as looking for trouble if you were to actually use it. Neither is what CCW is all about.

    I can see it as something to have in your vehicle, but a folding-stock carbine would take up little if any more space.
     
  23. Leif Runenritzer

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    AFAIK, it's because of these little, deadly toys that we can't import surplus 7.62×39, as it's now armor-piercing handgun ammo.
     
  24. Number 6

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    No, that would be Olympic Arms making AR pistols in 7.62x39.
     
  25. Oleg Volk

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    A friend carries an HK SP89 for about two weeks...then he went back to regular pistols.
     
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